Asklemmy

The problem is it's slop. I feel nothing but disappointment watching most media these days, it's just so lazy and soulless

Yes, AI turbo charges slop production, but what has made me laugh the hardest over the past few years is AI being chaotic and interacting with real people. I love that a fake anime girl can play Minecraft with a bunch of people, suddenly decide to set everything on fire and cry for help, or hunt down a player for a perceived slight.

I love that another creator designs AI prompts on the spot and puts them and the viewers through challenges.

I love that someone made an escape room game where you must pacify an unhinged AI while trying to accomplish tasks

Some AI art is surreal and incredible, and people use AI with intent, passing a single picture through many different AI stacks with manual configuration

There was even a movie script "written entirely by AI", but in reality it was a writer guiding an AI through creating a screenplay. It was about a writer who uses AI, then discovers it's a far better writer than he could ever be, and the existential crisis he faces as he passes off the AI's work as his own

But then you have something like Star wars, where the new trilogy was so lacking in soul and writing that I still feel loss when I watch any star wars media. I couldn't even bring myself to watch the last movie, I eventually watched someone rewrite the trilogy scene by scene to fix it instead

AI slop is definitely a huge problem, but the real problem is societal. We have a grifting economy, everyone is so scared and desperate they're just trying to exploit a system to "get theirs" while they can. You can't make art like that, you can't even make useful things like that

Creation requires soul, but just like you can hang a paint can and spin a canvas to create beautiful patterns, the artists who do it make hundreds, unsure of how it will turn out, and burn all but the one that speaks to them. If they released all of them, they'd just be kitche slop

AI is the same way - you can use AI to create very quickly, but if you don't inject something into the process you've just made slop

And corporations want you to learn to love the slop

I've pretty much always rejected gen AI so this isn't a problem for me. Why would I want more soulless art in a world that's already commodified it all? No thanks.

I block every gen AI comm I see

Growing up in the age of photoshop, I didn’t really care as long as it looked good and the message made sense.

Pretty sure a great art work can be made using AI tools which sends a great message. We just have a lot of sloppy prompts at this beginning stage. Perhaps when it starts costing a lot more they’ll be more thoughtful of how and when they utilize AI.

When AI is a tool it can help make art. When humans become tools of AI, it's no longer art.

I personally enjoy a lot of videogames that feature AI, especially roguelikes. I don't think there's any shame in using an automatic spell-checker. Autotune has helped make music better (and worse, any tool can be misused). Automatic subtitles, while not the most reliable, have allowed a lot of video media that otherwise would never have been captioned to become accessible to the hearing-impaired.

I wouldn't write off all new art out of fear of AI. But I also wouldn't read a novel written by AI, either; how did you even end up in that situation, OP? There's so much good literature out there and more every day.

I barely tolerate most movies, songs and novels (a collection of greedy suits might have a pair of working neurons between them but they still count as people!) and already consider it slop (at least they're fun sometimes, like books by Dan Brown); 'AI' hasn't even begun to make anything coherent, let alone interesting... 🤷

Just by knowing something was created by AI makes it repelling to me. That’s not to say it can’t generate interesting material, but I so wish this technology didn’t exist in the first place. But, it’s here to stay, and refusing to adapt to it entirely it may not be in our best interest in the long run. It’s possible I have enjoyed content without knowing it was AI-generated too; it’s not always obvious. Not everything made by humans is good either, although I respect the effort the creators put into it. Luckily there is an extensive catalogue of reputable human-made literature and art to choose from that goes back centuries :)

This feels like confirmation bias. You don't recognize the ones that you find acceptable, so you falsely reinforce your belief even when the data might disagree with you. I promise that you aren't as good at detecting AI as you think you are.

I felt the same way already with all the content targeted at The Great Algorithm for maximum doomscrolling effect. AI is just making it easier for those people. The human part was lost already.

What a world we live in where this is even a thought someone has.

You should know that little media is being made today that will stand the test of time. It used to be, that when someone was angry or proud or excited, when they were full of emotion that had to be expressed, they would write book or a song or paint a work of art. Now, those emotions can be unloaded instantly on TikTok giving the person the satisfaction they needed. And perhaps some people do still do this but you won't know about it because the corporations that have historically funded such people full of emotions to express are now dumping money into works their board members know to already be popular.

I'll add something that I'm personally struggling with. There is so much content available today that staves off any opportunity for boredom that I have little time to spend doing the things I know are more fulfilling. Like, when I get done work, I just plop on the couch and watch YT instead of taking a nap or reading a book or drawing. And now my attention span is shit so it's a struggle to just sit still and do something requiring more than a few minutes of attention. I mean, I literally have a book called Dopamine Nation on my coffee table that I've yet to read more than a couple chapters of.

You and I may have two different problems but I think they're booth seeking the same solution: rediscovering our humanity.

I don't think for me its just ai. I sorta stopped liking anything made in modern times at some point. Not exactly sure when but like the last new type of stuff that I went out of my way to see is like the original avengers arc movies and by endgame I was really just coasting on momentum, legion, first season of doom patrol, titans, american gods. Basically around the time of covid but just before. I have been excited by some things but enjoyed only a few. The boys and invincible are like the only things since 2019 I have liked that I can think of.

Everything related to art (photography, movie, music, graffiti or whatnot...) Has to be none AI for me to enjoy. I put it on the same hate level as ads (radio, tv, internet...).

However, I found out how good it can be to help me out to put together some scripts in python or bash. Not because it's good at doing those things but because I do not have time to learn proper python or bash :/. Though I do agree it only works well for small things.

Maybe, those who love AI generated art feel the same way as I do with AI generated code? 🤷‍♂️