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[–] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like how they don't even bother saying it's a lie. They just say it's aimed at them.

"we're seeing similarities between us and fictional villains and we don't like it"

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 137 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (28 children)

Someone have context if we haven’t seen the new superman?

Also I want to scream a million times. Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 139 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.

Mixing that up is intentional, so that you can be accused of being antisemitic by not supporting Israel. Politicians love to do this.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

At the start of the movie, Superman has just stopped an invasion. The fictional country Barovia, a US ally, has advanced weaponry and attempts to invade and annex a much smaller and poorer fictional country Jarhanpur which doesn't appear to have a military of any kind. Barovia is ethnically white (coded as Eastern European/Russian) and Jarhanpur is ethnically more middle eastern.

It is not a giant leap to correlate these countries to Isreal and Palestine, but really those superficial details are where the the similarities begin and end. There is no apparent religious connection to the invasion, nor terrorist activity. No ongoing tensions, direct involvement from the US goverment in the invasion, or any act of war or other event that triggers Barovia to invade. It is just a powerful country attacking a smaller country for their resources on the orders of a power hungry dictator. It's a trope that is not exclusively related to current events, that made as much sense 50 years ago as it does today. And the purpose of it in the film is to both critique Superman's naivete of geopolitics, and to reinforce his values that every life matters.

People that are mad about it and pretending that it is explicitly a depiction of the Isreali-Palestinian war are projecting meaning that isn't there, at least beyond maybe some subtext. It's always a bit telling when people see generic bad guys in a movie and think, "this is about me!" But, of course, if they felt that the depiction of the overwhelming military force against civilians made the Palestinians seem sympathetic to them... maybe they should think a bit more about why that is.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 58 points 1 day ago

If you see yourself in the bad guys actions, maybe do something else...

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 87 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s not our fault your state became so evil they are interchangeable with cartoon villains.

All this whining about that movie makes me want to see it more and more. If this is intentional, it will be remembered as the best marketing campaign in history.

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[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Absolutely agree! Why can't we have a show where a strong army wipes out a minority from the Earth with the rest of the world cheering?

What? That exists and is called "Fox News"??

[–] LuaPurpa@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

That being said. Free palestine ♡

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

you call them PRO-PALIS? does that mean youre ANTI-PALESTINE?? KIND OF A WEIRD THING TO SAY

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 106 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow, it's actually amazing how far they can combine self-awareness and denial so effortlessly.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

rick and morty , family guy all have talked about palestine and israel in some form or another. dint see them whine about that. there were quite a few other shows discussing it.

[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

at this point israel is just a country of vile rabid criminals. they know all the normal jewish people think of them as a stain on humanity and their religion but still cry antisemitism when they are exposed bombing children collecting water or sniping pregnant women.

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean the glass shoe does fit, soooooo...

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[–] modernangel@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Reddit has been actively alienating users who despise fascism, so these pro-fash topical whinges are only going to grow more echo-chambery

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Just saw Superman a few minutes ago. I have pwned the libs by doing so.

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 55 points 2 days ago

Self-awareness is tapping them on the shoulder but they refuse to turn around.

[–] Ambersand@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Are Zionists (not the general Jewish population of the world) the biggest mass murdering babies in human civilization now adays?

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[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Maybe if you didn't colonize the land of brown people you would see no parallelism between the two. Hypocrites.

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