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[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I prefer Arch Linux's use of flatpaks, which is none at all ever

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Me pretty much only ever using arch Linux: "what the fuck is a flatpak"

I once had to install Firefox into wsl (Ubuntu) and I wanted the kms on the spot.

But maybe it's not that bad for newer people to get started with Linux.

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[–] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The issue I have with flatpaks is the size for most applications. It just doesn't make sense for me. Not that it's not useful and has it's purposes.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Could things like this go in linuxmemes? Memes are fun but it would be nice to keep this a place for actual information. And no, this is not a comment on what it's saying, I'm just tired of so many memes.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

IDK why you're being so rage baity. Its easy to avoid flatpaks if you dont like them. Only thing I've ever found as an obstacle was adding the binaries to my PATH so I can launch it with dmenu_run. Otherwise my package manager works well enough.

Bonus points: Write a PKGBUILD that installs flatpaks to /opt and symlink out binaries as needed.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Enter the calm and quiet room

Pass out torches and pitchforks, guns and knives

“Snaps exist”

War erupts.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago
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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I'm not a huge fan of Flatpaks, they're a lot harder to distribute offline versus something like AppImage. Seriously, you have to like create an offline repository, then create a bundle, and it's like 6 or 7 steps, it's honestly kind of ridiculous lol but other than that they seem fine, and they're easy enough to update (but so are apt packages)

I know some people may say "oh why do you need that", but Linux has taught me that my computer is my own, and I should be able to use it the way I want to. I shouldn't have to fight with my package manager to get it to do what I want. So I guess you could say, no I'm not really a fan of Flatpaks.

Personally, I didn't mind Snaps, but I'm getting kind of really fed up with especially for-profit companies etc so I don't like Snap that much now either.

Apt packages are nice, but the more of them you have installed, especially if you're using Ubuntu-based distros and have lots of PPAs, the more annoying upgrading your distro version can be because of all the dependencies and cross-dependencies.

AppImage tends to just work for me, as long as it's not compiled with a newer libc-bin version than the distro I'm currently using has, and I really enjoy that it's just one file I can copy and run pretty much anywhere.

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[–] The_Walkening@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I like the idea of them because I don't like dealing with dependencies changing and breaking stuff and I don't really care too much about disk space in the context of non-game desktop apps, as I don't tend to install lots of them.

That being said I absolutely hate that permissions are all over the place and flatpak doesn't ship a GUI to manage them by default, nor do you get any indication as to what permissions a program has until you try some functionality (like filesystem or camera access) only to find out it doesn't work out of the box.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would be, but the promise is just broken. Let's say you want to do the new cool thing and run Bazzite on your console gaming PC on your TV. Now you also want to watch videos that are any normal format these days or (GASP) HEVC like you could on an XBox. You install flatpak VLC because it "just plays everything" in your experience. Your experience is ruptured for both VLC and flatpak now. Flatpaks run on system .so's actually sometimes and installing a Flatpak doesn't mean an app "just works" like Mac or Windows...

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[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Cursed solution to a cursed problem 🤷

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I need OBS on this new computer!

Let's install the flatpack!

V4l problems

Plugins Problems

Wayland Problems

I'm just going back to the .deb, thanks.

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 10 points 1 week ago

Flatpak being securely sandboxed by default is both its biggest strength and its worst point of contention. The XDG is still scrambling to replicate the permission requests paradigm from Android on the Linux desktop.

[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I "grew up" with Slackware, so I definitely understand the dependency issue.

I like flatpaks (and similar) for certain "atomic" pieces of software, like makemkv. For more "basic" software, like, say, KDE, I want it installed natively.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's a neat concept. The distro-agnostic aspect is definitely a plus for some people but I still prefer distro-specific installation methods. The only time I would seek out the Flatpak version of a particular software is when it's the only version available.

[–] ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I use SystemD binary Gentoo with Flatpaks. Sue me.

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[–] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

I don't like how so many distros ship with discover configured to install flatpaks by default. It's a huge newbie trap when you click "open file" and uh where are all my files?? You should only install a flatpak if the program is not available for your OS, or if the native version doesn't work for some reason.

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