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What are some goods that you wish were manufactured in Europe? (lemmy.ca)
submitted 22 hours ago by Sunshine@lemmy.ca to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk
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GPUs designed by european companies would be really nice to have made on the continent!

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[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

ICs, passives, and transistors. /thread.

There are 2 big IC designers in Europe: Nordic and ST, but I believe all of their production is in China and Taiwan. If trade crashes, we have the IP, but no way to manufacture at scale. IMEC here in Belgium has 4 small fabs, but there isn't that much else and the workforce is expensive as fuck which is why they do research IC's almost exclusively.

We have a lot of camera IC designing in the EU also, but they are almost all fabless. Luckily we have ASML who know everything technical about IC manufacturing.

We have less knowledge on how to actually mass produce ICs anymore efficiently even though we create all of the tools and methods here because everything is done in the east that will see any volume production. PCBs and assembly are already 2-3x as expensive.

In my opinion, we need huge subsidies to get component and IC scale fabs here.

[โ€“] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

ST operates its own fabs, they are located mostly in Europe.

I don't know about Nordic

[โ€“] Orue@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

All products whose production cannot be guaranteed under fair and humane socio-economic conditions and all products whose procurement outside Europe poses a risk to life and health - e.g. prescription drugs

[โ€“] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Medicine, Electronics, clothing

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

astrazeneca and novonordisk both have massive european factories, so we can at least do medicine

[โ€“] TDCN@feddit.dk 2 points 12 hours ago

so we can at least do medicine

*Some medicin.

Different Pharmaceuticals require very different manufacturing processes, QC lab equipment and validations and so on. Novo Nordisk can't just start producing ADHD medicine or Paracetamol for instance without significant investments and changes. It's a long and complicated process to get the license to produce. Not impossible, but I just wanted to highlight that it's not so easy to just start producing something entirely new even though it's still pharmaceuticals.

[โ€“] lost@lemmy.wtf 1 points 13 hours ago

AZ said they want to move to the New York stock market last week...

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 18 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

I guess with electronics there is a lot to be desired. GPUs, CPUs other chips and a lot of components. Entire smartphones and laptops.

Though what I'd really like to see "manufactured" in Europe is a big internet platform. Something like WhatsApp, Instagram or YouTube, TikTok or whatever.

[โ€“] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, cheap microchips for microcontrollers like the Raspberry Pi Pico and SOC computers and chips for memory storage.

If there is ever a WWIII or a global economic collapse, which climate change will make increasingly likely, a lack of the basics for IT will completely collapse Europe.

[โ€“] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

There is STmicroelectronics manufacturing chips in Europe.

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 9 hours ago

... and most of the world. I guess that's the reason why we still have Taiwan as a country.

[โ€“] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Mastodon? It's European-owned.

Diaspora is also pretty good.