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[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 139 points 1 day ago (21 children)

I read that it makes ICE bigger than the fucking Chinese army. It's beyond obscene. One thing that I wonder about is... are there even enough racist sociopaths in this country to fill the ranks? You need a specific type of person to be willing to join ICE. It's possible that there simply aren't enough Americans who are willing to brutalize immigrants to use the $200 billion they were given.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

54 million MAGA out there. Plenty of jobs. They might not be able to run 50 feet without a smoke break, but they are there.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

In terms of pure numbers, yeah, there are plenty of MAGA out there to hire. But they need to be mentally and physically fit in order to join ICE and carry out these raids. I would be genuinely surprised if there were enough MAGA in this country who could pass the physical.

I could be wrong. But if I'm right they might try hiring literal mercenaries for this, or just embezzle the funds. Or buy stupid militarized vehicles like police departments like to do.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago

they need to be mentally and physically fit

Sweet summer child

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

They need to be mentally fit? What do the mental fitness evaluation standards look like for a brown shirt? I get what you’re saying that traditionally ICE agents may have had those requirements but it’s a new dawn where the only requirements moving forward are going to be MAGA loyalty.

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[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago

It's possible that there simply aren't enough Americans who are willing to brutalize immigrants

You give them (yourself?) too much credit. US has been brutalizing people abroad for no fucking reason for decades. How many people do you think protested against killing brown people? Did the involved (apart for a very few cases) face any consequences? No? They live for that shit.

What do you think "Thank you for your service" means when they're literally murdering civilians abroad.

Trump of a symptom of generations of racism. People didn't come out and vote for a felon, rapist and a bankrupt moron, who probably couldn't add 2+2, just for the kicks. They organized it, so they could embolden themselves and live their fantasies about oppressing people they hate.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What is scary about the modern world is just how much damage can be caused by a handful of people thanks to technology. They don't need millions of people to run their gestapo if they have the NSA surveilling the internet, a network of facial recognition enabled surveillance cameras, military gear that would let a handful of agents take on anything short of an armed mob, and drone strikes for the ones they can't even be bothered to capture.

There aren't a lot of psychos, but it really doesn't take that many to cause problems if nobody else has the will or capacity to fight back. And this will make oodles of money for "defense" contractors.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

among the 5 US militaries, ICE is bigger than two of them combined:

US NAVY: $292B

USAF: $249.5B

US Army: $179.4B

ICE: $75B

US marines: $57.2B

US Coast Guard: $14.5 B

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My time will come. Voted (D), protested, and we have a pride flag at our house.

No, I will not leave my country. I will fight to the death when the goons grab me.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago

oh man chuck schumer's gonna write a letter so sternly worded their heads will spin

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

How can we not have a recall option? I don't understand how we got this far without one.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you guys get another left leaning president be better be a socialist dictator. If this is the game now, play it. Next guy better abolish ice

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

That not what they are there for...

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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

It still doesn't solve the new MAGA party. The republican party is dead. 50 million Americans are MAGA. I don't see how they're getting out of this without going through hell. In other words open warfare.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (9 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

It's been pointed out repeatedly that the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

[–] S0ck@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (13 children)

I still chose to blame the republicans.

No one ever just blames them directly in these conversations. It's always "blame the protest non-voters" or "blame the leftists" or whatever.

Just go directly to blaming the people who gleefully voted for it. Everything else is just infighting and stupid.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (21 children)

Just go directly to blaming the people who gleefully voted for it. Everything else is just infighting and stupid.

No it's not. There is a huge difference.

Republicans wanted this so they voted for it. You don't have to tell them this lol they are thrilled. Of course we blame them. That shit is all over the internet all the time, but a scorpion is a scorpion. Its in its nature, you cant change their whole ideology.

The group he is criticizing claimed to have been protest-non-voting because of harm done to specific groups. Mainly Palestinians. This is the group who should have empathy for human beings, who's motive should align with the other Democratic voters.

We told them REPTEADLY. LOUDLY. CLEARLY. that what they were doing would result in worse violence FOR PALESTINIANS and MORE marginalized groups like TRANS PEOPLE and IMMIGRANTS. And what happened? Exactly what we told them would happen. So everyone who fucking claimed to have been doing what they were doing to protest needs to see this. They need to be held accountable. WHAT PRIVILEGE IT IS to be able to protest and go back to your life without worrying about ICE or Israel or transphobes or Russians coming and killing you.

WE TRIED TO GET THEM TO HELP PROTECT THESE GROUPS AND THEY REFUSED KNOWING FULL WELL WHAT WAS COMING. THE GOP PUBLISHED THE MANUAL BEFORE THE ELECTION.

Every time someone says "I told you so" it comes with a justified rage and I won't fuckin hear someone telling them to stop bringing it up. Fuck that.

I hope this sticks with them and the guilt haunts whatever conscience they have for the rest of their life. It's not comparable to what they allowed to happen. It doesn't even register on the scale next to this. They were the ones who actually could've stopped this.

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

The problem is, you know what the Republicans will do. Not voting is cutting your nose off to spite your face.

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[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Meh, they showed the world what piece of shit US is.

If your country can openly fund genocide to concentration camps, your "system" probably needs a big reset. But the people who wanted none of it are to blame. 1000 IQ logic, there bud.

It's a mask off and the world thanks them for it. US will probably be next to Russia, China, Iran and North Korea in a decade in terms on international reputation. Hollywood's not going to work this time because people have way more access to information first hand than they did with pirated movies last decade.

Keep projecting tho, that'll definitely fix it.

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 53 points 1 day ago

And people are disappearing.

That's the actual point.

Bludgeoningly obviously, ICE had been chosen to be America's Gestapo.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Be prepared to have checkpoints everywhere you go.

[–] nothrone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I always wondered if family members of ICE members know that they are members... If I had a cousin that was ICE, I would go absolutely no contact with him, and would let everyone know that the guy is ICE. Wear your shitty mask, but people will know.

Someone should start an ICE database, where pictures of ICE people are posted, even masked. And let people who know them come forward and say "hey. I know the guy in picture X, it is John blabla". Then, bully those pieces of shit out of existence.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

It'd probably be better to pretend to befriend them. Information is power.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

A massively enlarged unaccountable army beholden to Trump, huh can’t imagine what could go wrong.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My pride flag will still fly. I will still protest. But I will now answer the door, chain bolted, and 9mm pointed through the door.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Bad idea. Even pistols can shoot through doors and entry tactics love it when you come to set location.

Get a security camera and if they take it out first... Well, you know what they're there for.

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

God bless the United States of authoritarianism

/s

America is fuckity fuck fucked. Enjoy Americans, this is what you voted for: fascism and tax breaks for billionaires.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

An overfunded undisciplined paramilitary of degenerates that couldn't make it through police academy, what could go wrong?

[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You'll soon start seeing huge investment in trains, and their time-table as well.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 5 points 21 hours ago

It's absolutely fucked that this could be how trains and rail-lines get reinvigorated.

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