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Charlottesville, Virginia, spent most of a decade revising its zoning code.

It held endless community meetings.

It gave opponents ample opportunity to make their case.

They lost.

But a handful of rich homeowners sued and have gotten the new Charlottesville zoning code overturned on a technicality

https://communityengagement.substack.com/p/june-30-2025-judge-worrell-voids?r=blgf

https://www.cvilletomorrow.org/newsletter/nine-charlottesville-residents-who-own-expensive-properties-are-suing-to-stop-upzoning/

9 millionaire homeowners, who couldn't persuade Charlottesville residents and couldn't win at the ballot box, decided they would throw everything they had to nullify their defeat.

And it worked

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

Its so blatantly obvious who actually holds power in this country. Its a wonder most people don't see it so clearly

[–] xylol@leminal.space 28 points 16 hours ago

We are kind of dealing with this too, our city has been expanding a lot and now our little street where we normally walk to the grocery store or to downtown for events is being used as a way for people to get around the traffic from the main road so it sucks to walk.

They haven't installed speed bumps or stop signs so its hard to cross most streets, even worse they are removing some cement islands that diverted traffic from taking some of the small streets to let traffic flow through. Now traffic is going more through our lower income area and avoiding the wider roads of the higher income neighborhoods that it used to

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 71 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The city should just put forth a new plan that involves taking those specific homeowners' land via eminent domain, and using it to install new parking lots or roadways or whatever will fit to accommodate the new requirements.

[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 18 hours ago

I was thinking the city should put forward a plan that specifically cuts off the homeowners homes from any roads, but I like this better

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago

Parking lots to leave your car and roll into town on rail or bus via the attached depot.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 21 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Not how roads work, dumbfuck.

Ultrawide roads do not help congestion and never have, that's a fact.

You can disagree with a fact, but that will just make you a dumb fuck, you god damn stupid-ass dumbfuck.

I invite these 9 dumbfucks to eat all of my shit and hair.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

You may be conflating this with adding lanes to the freeway which doesn't reduce freeway congestion since it's all rush hour based traffic, but I fail to see how adding more lanes in a city wouldn't reduce congestion for people who live there. If you have 1000 cars they'll fit more densely in 3 lanes than they would in a single lane since they can drive in parallel to the other vehicles.

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Eh it helps create thoroughfare. Our city features nothing but 2lane roads each way in/out of the downtown area, and the rest of the 120sqmi city is comprised of 1-2 lanes each way. Construction on any road dropping it a lane makes the next traffic light 6-8 blocks long.

Maybe Charlottesville is different and already has a major thoroughfare, but not having at least one "superwide road" is murder on all the small side streets that are not built to handle the traffic flooding around a blocked 2lane. Without public transit to support the population, making the city bigger without widening a few key roads into important parts is begging to have your neighborhood roads obliterated by heavy traffic.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 33 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What is the scope of the zoning plan densification?

If they're taking single family homes and putting up high rise towers; if the city did not expand transportation or public services(water and sewage) in any way (bigger sidewalks, buses, trams, bike lanes) the assholes are right.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 25 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I think the homeowners are right regardless. You don’t need to be a genius to figure out that even a moderately higher population density increases transportation demand. Even doubling the density could affect traffic considerably.

Now before the haters come out: I’m not saying that the transportation demand must be addressed by more or bigger roads.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 32 points 17 hours ago

Could be that the road isn't utilized to the full capacity yet. I've been involved in zoning projects where that was the case, the existing road and other infrastructure was adequate to fit the bigger population without modification.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

well even if you subscribe to carbrainism it doesn't make sense to just add lanes to roads, lanes are almost never the bottleneck. What you want is higher-capacity junctions.

[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ehhhh, zoning is super important. Vilifying someone by calling them "rich homeowners" is pretty weak.

[–] Davriellelouna@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] Demonmariner@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

And it looks like five families to me. So five families vs. everyone else.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

you know, back in the day if this happened someone's house would burn down and nobody would help.

if these wealthy conservatives are so desperate for the "good old days" and want to make America great again I think this is the perfect opportunity to make that wish come true.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 16 hours ago

We already organize out society around social security recipients needs and, desires and dreams.

Why shouldn't they have the ability to enjoy their town as they wish?

This is how class war looks in practice.

Get fucked slaves, get back to work.