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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Make signs that say "I support ________ ______" and let the media fill in the blanks for you.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Death to Pissrael!!!

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I was following this and was sad to hear about this happening despite excellent counterarguments from people like Zarah Sultana. These are scary times, but I was encouraged there was at least this response yesterday (just watch the first ~45 seconds): Invidious | ~Youtube~

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

Sultana somewhat marred that excellence earlier today by insisting on sticking to the line that the planes at Brize Norton were “connected” with flights over Gaza, which they were not. Sticking to that story makes it easier to discount their better reasoning.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago

home sectary put it with neo-Nazis. You don't want to back neo-Nazis, do you?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

It may also be illegal to refuse to give over passwords for your devices. For trivial stuff this doesn't apply but a terrorist group it likely does.

So remember to practice good data security.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Ah it's referring to a particular organization, Palestine Action

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

15 minutes to go! If you're gonna say it, be quick!

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You cheer for censorship when it aligns with your beliefs. Yet call the slippery slope a "fallacy."

See what happens?

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 week ago

Now that's a good looking straw man.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can sort of see the point you’re trying to make (as I too in a comment have called for censorship but in a different and very specific context), but I feel that you’re not exactly acknowledging the issue being discussed in this thread which is that people won’t be able to state their thoughts about the government of a country that is killing people en masse.

It’s a moral position that should be easy to support: it’s wrong to ethnically cleanse a population of people.

When I commented that certain speech should be punished, it was in the context of speech that is easy to fact-check and speech that directly harms people. The expression of being against the current government of Israel doesn’t harm anyone (other than the masters behind the scenes, but even then it’s just their money/control being targeted).

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

Just because your argument is fallacious doesn't mean the conclusion is wrong.

"Black people are hot therefore they should be treated equally" is an example that I can immediately come up with.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This really is a big part of it. A lot of Democrats weren't upset about authoritarianism & fascism, they were upset it wasn't their version.

Can you give an example of what you mean?

I can think of people saying those who post misinformation that promote hate crimes should be held accountable. Aimlessly claiming trans people are pedophiles or saying you should lock up all 62,000,000 Latinos because of their ethnicity means they are automatically criminal shouldnt be promoted.

Those wants are for the same reason sites like Lemmy have rules. Is it because Lemmy is pro Authoritarians and Fascists? I don't think so.

Freedom of speech was never the liberty to say anything, it was the ability to speak out against your government. If someone is publishing that lead paint can cause harm to the populace, it is in the best interest of the population and shouldn't be censored, but if I am publishing that water based paints are causing cancer with no scientific backing of my claims because I run a oil based paint company, that information should be refuted and be held liable for impacts caused on water based paint companies.

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