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In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison. (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 4 days ago by als@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does free speech or democracy exist if the oligarchs/states that buy your politicians/rulers force you to support those states? What would Idi Amin do (perhaps most self enriching open corrupt ruler, or the narrative that gets pinned on a ruler who shifts away from US empire)? Or as in history, UK first decided it was illegal to oppose Idi Amin (support his rivals) to later being illegal to support Idi Amin?

"To know who rules over you, notice who you are not allowed to criticize"

IIUC, it is only Palestine support that is illegal. You may still advocate for UK/NATO war on Israel or at least elimination of support, and elimination of politicians who support Israel. Limiting speech to support for all wars your rulers prefer is the most oppressive of democratic speech.

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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Death to Pissrael!!!

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

democracy

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Sorry what

It was bad enough when Boris made protests illegal (did that ever go through) but this? This is disgusting.

How can Labour just do own goals day after day I do not know. At this point they’re just a continuation of the sad fucking state of Tory cabinets. From A team to B to D (was Rishi D? ) to fucking a big capital F with Starmer. I had such high hopes for them in the first week. Such lofty promises. But they’ve consistently let me down on an actual weekly basis.

It’s incredible really.

(I’ve now read the article) Ah ok it’s an actual activist group not just a blanket law applied to everyone….

Still…

[–] Part4@infosec.pub 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

It has been red tory v. blue tory since Blair took leadership in '93/'94.

It is more of less the same as the US (where it was red v blue republicans for a few decades and is now Republicans calling themselves 'Democrats' v. Christian Nationalist Fascists).

It is the natural continuation of Reaganite/Thatcherite neo-liberal capitalist ideology.

The outcome for the UK will be a lurch right as the poor vote for parties (Reform) who have used the immigration (that has caused serious legitimate problems for poor communities that simply can't afford to support the huge number of asylum seekers that have been dumped upon them) and other cultural issues of various legitimacy (imvho) that poor people have been coerced into finding important, as wedge issues.

Edit - obviously this lurch to the right is the opposite of what should happen but here we go. It is what fossil-fuel powered capitalists prefer to socialism and an egalitarian society any day.

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[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I was following this and was sad to hear about this happening despite excellent counterarguments from people like Zarah Sultana. These are scary times, but I was encouraged there was at least this response yesterday (just watch the first ~45 seconds): Invidious | ~Youtube~

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 13 points 3 days ago

home sectary put it with neo-Nazis. You don't want to back neo-Nazis, do you?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago

It may also be illegal to refuse to give over passwords for your devices. For trivial stuff this doesn't apply but a terrorist group it likely does.

So remember to practice good data security.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

15 minutes to go! If you're gonna say it, be quick!

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