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I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I'm starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I'm feeling like I'm just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don't feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare...

I think I'll be staying home this year too... anyone else?

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 2 hours ago

It’s a free show. With the right people it’s good, but I understand your feeling.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Because of Patriotism they had it so easy to turn it into Nationalism and now turn it to fascism.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

I'm celebrating Happy Fireworks Day!

I've got new neighbors that are probably about to hear, "Fire in the hole!" unironically for the first time. You can actually see the shockwave from my blackpowder signal cannon. Good chance the cops show up.

I usually use the cannon to vaporize 10oz of kerosene for a nice mushroom cloud of fire, but I'll have to see how it goes.

I'm a pyro.

Y'all wear safety glasses if having bottle rocket fights or roman candle duels.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Best day to begin taking your country back. Too bad the couch is so comfy.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

You know there are people out there who are actually getting off their couch and fighting?Active revolution isn’t for everyone, but you don’t have to keep normalizing laziness and cowardice. You can instead use your voice to encourage action.

[–] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I imagine almost everyone who's not American, like 95.5% of the world population.

"Come all ye young rebels And list while I sing For the love of one's country Tis a terrible thing It banishes fear with the Speed of a flame And makes us all part of The patriot's game...."

[–] Zezzoz@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Feeling patriotic towards a country of traitors.

US best values have been lost long time ago.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 41 points 19 hours ago

why celebrate independence day?

it was supposed to be about gaining independence from tyranny.

We're back with kings and tyrants.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 25 points 20 hours ago

Our country is under MAGA Nazis rule, and that is nothing to celebrate. Independence Day should be a Day of Resistance, until the MAGA Nazis lose their control.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Why feel patriotic for a country that literally stole/claimed what wasn't theirs to being with? Never felt such a thing for this so called "first world".

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[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I'm a USAF vet. My ancestors literally fought in the revolutionary war, and signed The Declaration of Independence. I'm going through the motions this year, but I don't feel it at all. I'm pissed that we're multiple stages into a nazi regime. I'm profoundly flabbergasted at how anyone could be for this. How anyone that is for it, can't see that they're going to be the "out" party. Some already are seeing it.

I'm incredibly disappointed that the news has gotten so out of touch that they just rolled over and lapped up the rhetoric. Local news is all sunshine and rainbows while ICE kidnaps people, and a corrupt POtuS breaks the constitution left and right. While he deploys military against its own citizens. While rights are stripped, aided by a corrupt SCOTUS. While the rich get richer off of our backs. While the checks and balances are obliterated.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

I was an Army officer and I my people have been here since the mid 1700s. I have service in my family going all the way back to the beginning of this country. I am a member of both the VFW and the American Legion and I have been depressed since November. I really hoped America was better than this. I was wrong. I do not know what I will do for the 4th but it will not be celebrating.

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[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but HOW THE FUCK could I EVER be proud of this country anymore??? We've done nothing to deserve respect or patriotism.

[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 2 points 7 hours ago

Then maybe it's a day to protest, not to celebrate. Maybe the best way could have been doing a full strike that stopped the country and doing also protests in the streets.

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[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Canadian here and we celebrated the fuck out of our national holiday which just passed. We have a stronger feeling of solidarity than we've felt in a long time. Despite the threats of annexation and shifting tariffs, we are feeling more hopeful than we have in many years, possibly because we're making new friends in the global sandbox and coming into our own power now instead of constantly kowtowing to the USA in all matters.

Except a few folks in Alberta who would love to be part of the modern Nazi regime. Fuck them, tho.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Personally, I'm not feeling that same vibe. I think the solidarity against the US is a very good thing, but the sheer amount of ways Canada is just "America Light" is very depressing. Its to the point that our flag has been so sullied by absolutely shit tier movements in the last 5 years that I can't stand to see it anymore.

Every time I see a private flag pole, bumper stickers or anything kind of patriotic merch my knee jerk reaction is "I bet this dude's a fuckwad." I know that I'm painting with a huge and shitty brush but I just can't even fight against it anymore. I know it's wrong. I just don't care, and that makes me sad.

I live comfortably here, but given even a minutely convenient reason to emigrate I think I'd take it.

Canada is a car infested, anti-human shit hole just like America. To paraphrase Steve Harris of Iron Maiden a bit "We oil the jaws of the ~~war~~ capitalist machine and feed it with our ~~babies~~ immigrants."

[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

I've felt like that for years, too. But Canadians boycotting en masses, then soundly rejecting mini-Trump has given me hope. Since then, our leader has been reaching out to other countries to form new relationships and deals. We just signed a rare earth minerals deal with Greenland, of all places.

Yes, Canada has been hamstrung by US demands but the vice-grip they've had over us has deteriorated. This wouldn't have happened if not every single other country in the world was going through the same thing. So it feels a bit like a rebirth to me, with the possibility of finally being able to come into our own as a nation.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 21 hours ago

Sounds like a great day for a false flag attack to solidify the masses against a perceived threat.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

Not American. But I don't even know when my country's national day is. I know there's one because they always do a military parade with the king and always something goes wrong, and we laugh about it. But I can even tell what day it is until I see it on the news.

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[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being a Brit, for years I've jokingly referred to the 4th of July as 'Rebellion Day' to my USian friends. Not sure I'm joking any more, just hopeful. Go on. Rebel!

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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly nationalism for the US has always been kinda gross to me. We've never really had much to be proud of as a nation historically.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 31 points 1 day ago (12 children)

State-level patriotism is always bullshit to begin with.

That's how you're tricked into loyalty based on the most arbitrary reasons.

Be the messenger of humanity and get curious about the Universe. People are brothers, and there's no pride in being born in one plot of land over the other.

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