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๐Ÿ“บ Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed
Democrats would rather lose to a Republican, to a conservative, to a fascist, to Trump, than address the material conditions of the American people.

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[โ€“] solarspark@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

now that's surprising /s

[โ€“] Ele7en7@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (19 children)

Which is why we need a Democrat socialist party. Unfortunately, voters are incapable of voting for anything other than red or blue.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Party for Socialism and Liberation already exists, though all socialism is democratic, it just stands for reformist socialism. PSL is revolutionary, but also runs candidates.

[โ€“] AmazingWizard@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do they run candidates? I'm curious where. I know they do presidential campaigns but how many local races do they really run in?

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

See the elections section. It obviously isn't a big focus, but it does happen.

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[โ€“] scintilla@beehaw.org 10 points 5 days ago

I think I was wrong. I think both sides maybe are the same...

[โ€“] Salvo@aussie.zone 7 points 4 days ago (8 children)

This is evidence that the US political system does not function.

There are two paths forward;

  • Burn down the entire thing (which Trump and frenemies are currently doing).
  • rebuild and reform the existing system (which can happen by voters voting for progressive centralist candidates in local and state representatives en-mass (like in NYC).

I would not call Zohran Mandani a socialist. I would call him a progressive rational centralist.

Counter point, the system is functioning as intended

[โ€“] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

I would not call Zohran Mandani a socialist.

He literally said, "The end goal is seizing the means of production"

Zohran Mamdani is a Socialist.

[โ€“] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I would not call Zohran Mandani a socialist. I would call him a progressive rational centralist.

I agree with you. We shouldn't present it as "left politics". We should present it as "politics for the people". That way, it makes it compatible with more people.

You wouldn't believe how many americans have a deep fear of the word "left". We should call it centrist instead, even if it is left.

Maybe, let's use the phrase "socialism is to listen to the heart of the people, and the heart sits in the center of people, so it's centralist politics" or something.

[โ€“] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

wouldn't believe how many americans have a deep fear of the word "left". We should call it centrist instead, even if it is left

Which is just dumb as hell

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