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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org to c/dankmemes@lemmy.world
 
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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

When the rich want war it’s the poor who have to die.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What happens if the War in the Middle East ever stops generating obscene profits?

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

An actual historian can chime in if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the middle east has had some sort of internal or external conflict going on for all of history. So the answer to your question is likely "still war".

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I’m pretty sure the middle east has had some sort of internal or external conflict going on for all of history

Prior to the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the Middle East enjoyed centuries of peace and prosperity. From the 13th to 20th centuries, you were far safer in Damascus or Baghdad or Tehran than Paris or Berlin or Rome. Europe was in a continuous state of civil conflict during this period.

The Middle Eastern states were a popular refuge for European civilians fleeing the 30-Years-War, the Napoleonic Wars, the various wars of consolidation and independence following the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the World Wars. Countries from Morocco to Iran were all common destinations thanks to their unaligned status and divorce from the conflicts in Europe. More common even than the Americas. In fact, a big early appeal of the Palestinian Mandate was that it allowed Christians, Muslims, and Jews alike to escape the pogroms north of the Mediterranean.

In the early years, at the start of the Cold War, a number of the former European colonies broke away from their now-destitute colonial masters. This lead to brief civil struggles, largely centered around the capitals where all those European WW1/2 refugees had piled in. But by and large, the democratization of the Middle East was far more peaceful than the democraticization of Europe.

It wasn't until the 1950s, when spy games between the US and the USSR began to topple unaligned governments, that war in the Middle East became commonplace. But what we're seeing today is a novelty of the 20th/21st century. You're ignoring centuries of peaceful coexistence and fixating on a few ancient (Crusades) and a few very recent (Soviet/Post-Soviet) violent flare ups.

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Religion will create all war in the Middle East.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

People who don't read history create reductive takes

[–] MetalMachine 11 points 1 day ago

Except almost all the problems in the middle east today can be traced to the Sykes pico agreement and imperialism by secular powers

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most of the war in the middle east for the past century was created by secular imperialists, motivated by material greed and racism.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The same can be said of Middle Earth.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Hupf@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago

And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for your middlesome kids!

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it's the rich and powerful who expect to become more rich and more powerful when there is war in the Middle East that bring about war in the Middle East.

Politicians,

If we spend a trillion of taxpayers money to kill brown civilians, it will funnel billions into the pockets of the worst scum on earth, and they will funnel that tax money that could have been used on healthcare, housing, education.. straight into my pockets.

Politicians literally burning taxpayers and human lives in order to get a billionth of that cash.

imagine robbing a bank, by setting it on fire with people inside, only to walk away with 3$ and call it a success.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm gassy. I haven't started war in the middle east yet, but I'm young. Ish.

hey, we all grow up at our own time.

no rush,

you'll start your war in the middle east when you're ready.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

OMG, Nostradamus was right!!!

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

"An empire will rise"
"An empire will fall"
"War will break out in the Middle East"
"The Boston Red Sox will win a World Series"

OMG, was this man a wizard or what?!!

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