We are slowly creeping towards Republican Party Membership with a "Respectable Voting Record", being the sole requirement for US Citizenship
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As long as Mamdani can't run anymore, centrists are on board.
So if you hold a green card/passport holder claims that their boss sexually assaulted. If they fail to prove it (which is always hard to prove even with evidence) they could denaturalize them since it is a "False Claim Act" violation.
Am I understanding this correctly?
No this is for people like myself who are Americans and can run for President but were born abroad. I was born in Mexico. Im white, not straight and Im terrified as I can now be made stateless.
Much worse than that - a naturalized citizen is a CITIZEN, not a resident. They can vote, have a passport, and everything.
Yeah, naturalized citizens are supposed to be just as citizeny as someone like me who was born here, to citizens, and has ancestors that have been here since this was the united kingdom (I also have an immigrant grandparent, a combination which isn't even rare here).
Historically naturalization being revoked took some hard-core doing on all sides. Naturalization is hard (though it's easy if you're a minor who's parents do it, in which case it transfers to you under certain circumstances), and it involves a lot of checks and tests and takes years. Naturalized citizens tend to love America like nobody else, though those naturalized as children are more like us that were born here.
No. You did not understand it correctly. I suggest reading the article. They're quite clear in what types of offenses could lead to denaturalization.
Elaborate.
Elaborate on how to read an article? I don't know what to tell you. You click the link, reject the cookies, and proceed to read the text.
The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.
The memo claims such efforts will focus on those who are involved “in the commission of war crimes, extrajudicial killings, or other serious human rights abuses … [and] naturalized criminals, gang members, or, indeed, any individuals convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the US”.
On 13 June, a judge ordered the revocation of the citizenship of Elliott Duke. Duke is a US military veteran originally from the UK who was convicted for distributing child sexual abuse material and had not disclosed the crime during the naturalization process.
Immigration attorneys are concerned that denaturalization cases via civil litigation strip some rights from the individual, including rights to an attorney as well as lowering the threshold of proof, and speeding up the denaturalization process.
Oh I thought you meant I didn't know how to read the memo the president released that had more detail. If you read that, it goes into the other ways to lose citizenship.
I assume, just like the president, you don't read the shit he signs.
Clearly you failed at that too then. If you had read it. You wouldn't be confused nor would you think pressing charges that does not result in conviction due to lack of evidence would be sufficient grounds.
- Cases against individuals who pose a potential danger to national security, including those with a nexus to terrorism, espionage, or the unlawful export from the United States of sensitive goods, technology, or information raising national security concerns;
- Cases against individuals who engaged in torture, war crimes, or other human rights violations;
- Cases against individuals who further or furthered the unlawful enterprise of criminal gangs, transnational criminal organizations, and drug cartels;
- Cases against individuals who committed felonies that were not disclosed during the naturalization process;
- Cases against individuals who committed human trafficking, sex offenses, or violent crimes;
- Cases against individuals who engaged in various forms of financial fraud against the United States (including Paycheck Protection Program (“PPP”) loan fraud and Medicaid/Medicare fraud);
- Cases against individuals who engaged in fraud against private individuals, funds, or corporations;
- Cases against individuals who acquired naturalization through government corruption, fraud, or material misrepresentations, not otherwise addressed by another priority category;
- Cases referred by a United States Attorney’s Office or in connection with pending criminal charges, if those charges do not fit within one of the other priorities; and
- Any other cases referred to the Civil Division that the Division determines to be sufficiently important to pursue.
You slow witted dipshit.
- Cases against individuals who engaged in fraud against private individuals, funds, or corporations.
Consistent with these directives, the Civil Division will use all available resources to pursue affirmative litigation combatting unlawful discriminatory practices in the private sector. In particular, the Civil Division is authorized to bring suit under the False Claims Act for treble damages and penalties against any person who knowingly submits or causes the submission of false claims to the government.
Stick to sucking off another country's nazi president somewhere else. Or just switch through your accounts jerking yourself off.
Reading must be difficult for you.
knowingly submits or causes the submission of false claims
As in, they can prove you knew it wasn't true.
I don't like Trump. But your example of someone pressing charges against sexual harassment/assault, and not being able to reach a conviction, is very different, from pressing charges that you KNEW wasn't true.
I'm not even going to touch number 7 since you obviously don't understand what constitutes fraud.
Women find it near impossible to prove discrimination and sexual abuse in the workplace as it is. You really think it's gonna be hard for a bunch of old men to wantonly decide that a woman "knew she was lying when she made those claims".
Do yourself a favor and read the transcripts and articles from the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings and some of the despicable things that were said about Anita Hill and everything that was done to discredit her and accuse her of lying.
Hell, you don't even need to go that far back. Just look at how many ways people called Christine Blasey Ford a liar. She put herself through hell and still to this day lives in fear for her life because of toxic evil right wingers. And all for nothing as Kavenaigh now sits happily on the supreme court handing Trump win after win against the American people and shitting all over the constitution.
And just how many women were silenced before one was able to bring Harvey Weinstein to justice??
You need to open your eyes and realize the world you live in. Trump's justice department will use whatever they can to deport as many immigrants as possible. They have shown without any shadow of doubt that they care nothing for the legal status of those immigrants.
And how many of those were convicted of filing false claims?
You really are quite stupid.
Yeah, you make a dumb argument and prove yourself wrong. But I'm the stupid one.
You came in here, read the title and nothing more. Posed a scenario and asked if you had understood it correctly.
When you are then informed that you did not understand it correctly, you proceed to be upset with me because you couldn't be bothered to read the article you commented on.
Of course Trump is trying to deport as many immigrants as he can. Isn't that his entire campaign for the last 12 years? I don't think anyone is particularly surprised. I have no doubt that Trump will pursue any avenue he can to achieve his goal. That still doesn't change that you did not understand the article, or the memo correctly if you think filing a charge that is unable to reach conviction is enough grounds to deport according to the memo. You have every right to worry about it. But that's not what the memo says.
Bro if you sucked him off any harder, he will fill you with orange cum.
Watching this administration work, what has shown you that they will not target people?
Deporting people at their hearings? Chasing down farm workers or people going to their religious place of worship? He did it all
Lets not forget he was found liable for defamation and sexual abuse. Even the judge knew he raped her.
Rape is the hardest case to prove. Forget the personal abuse the accuser deals with or the stigma from people like you. Then to have to overcome someone just saying " it was rough sex" and "she never stopped me or she didn't say no."
Fuck completely off, you pus filled anal lesion.
You really are an angry little fella. I already told you I don't like Trump. He's a clown in a suit. But your pathetic attempts at insult isn't going to make your argument any stronger.
Stigma from people like me? You got nothing better than baseless accusations and assumptions?
It's ok. You believe the racist rapist are correct and justify their actions. So you have no one that loves you. I get it, have you tried Jesus Christ? He might love you.
Not at all. I've tried telling you that multiple times by now but you clearly don't want to accept reality.
For someone that despises Trump so much, you sure do behave a lot like him. Unable to hold civil conversations, lashing out with insults, refusing to listen, and return with baseless accusations to derail the topic.
we should start calling it ethnic cleansing.
“Criminal offenses”
Can we start with the felon DT?
Ah. And it all falls into place.
All that will be left once they get this established is to expand it a bit more, so that any citizen can be stripped of their cirizenship, and thus of their rights, and thus made subject to ICE's authority and legally shipped off to a foreign concentration camp
That alligator concentration camp in Florida is probably for people they think are legal citizens.
legally shipped off to a foreign concentration camp
I think you mean sold to the highest bidding foreign labour camp.
Yes. But legally.
Hmm, looks like slavery is back on the menu boys!
That's been the plan all along
What's taking everyone so long to figure that out? I had THAT figured in January. It's called a dictator.
Was everyone assuming he was working for US???
Yeah, because that's not at all fascist in the slightest...
We're in trouble guys.
You have guns and a 2nd amendment. Strap up! This is the exact reason millions upon millions of Americans viciously defend Line item number 2 in your constitution: To fight tyranny.
If you don’t, all those years of defending it will be all for naught.
Millions upon millions of Americans have not defended the 2nd on anti-tyranny grounds. Most of them just have a hobby and think their AR-15 will someday defend their innocent white wife from bands of dangerous minorities. The 2nd Amendment people who actually believe in violent revolution (or the threat thereof) as the backstop of democracy are a tiny minority. We'd need something like "well-regulated militias" for that.
Plus only like 33% of people own a firearm who legally can, which is suspiciously close to the number of die hard Trump supporters. There might be more dollars/guns in America than people, but they certainly aren't distributed evenly.
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-- Undocumented immigrants are drug traffickers and violent criminals!
-- Any undocumented immigrant committed a crime just by being here! Deport them all!
-- Documented immigrants who espouse un-American views should have their status revoked and be deported!
-->Citizens who were from abroad, if we believe they went through naturalization improperly should be deported! (America is here)
-- Being born here shouldn't mean a free ticket to citizenship!
-- You don't deserve to have a US citizenship if you aren't on Team America!!!
The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.
Ironically, this exactly describes Elon Musk's situation where he was misrepresenting that he was on a student visa while he was working on a startup. Which would be a willful misrepresentation and grounds to have his citizenship revoked.
It's also a blank check to selective enforcement when any material fact discrepancy can be investigated and used to target any recent immigrants.
Also Melania with her Einstein visa.
I misread as Epstein visa at first lol
Yep, people all think that a criminal history means they did something bad like robbing a store or assaulting people. It's not, it could be that they were here illegally for 6 months before they became legal.
Elon Musk misrepresented his visa back in the day and was therefore technically illegal for a period, so at the very least he should get dropped in the emerald mines.
So, what happens to those people's status regarding their statehood? We can't force their prior country to re-instate their citizenship.
The Supreme Court ruled that they don't even need to send them to the prior country that they came from. So likely indefinite detention and trafficking paid for by the U.S. government until the headlines cease
The conspiracy theory on Tiktok nowadays is that they are just being handcuffed and dumped out of cargo planes into the ocean.
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How about no...when do we get out and just tell them no? They can run us over with tanks, drop bomb, etc. Its coming, just a matter of when the civil war starts, and who fires the first shot. If they dont want to participate faithfully in the United States, and give preferential treatment, withhold disaster aid funding, etc, then whats the point of being part of the Union?
These fuck heads think we'll just run scared with our tail between our legs, and thats not true. Nobody wins in a civil war, but thats what they're gonna get.
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Yo my dudes, gonna do something at some point? Should be riots everywhere by now
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