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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Lately I've been really annoyed by Microsoft products. For a certain work-related thing we were using Microsoft word to collaborate and it randomly would stop letting some of us edit, throwing warnings like "Allow access to your Microsoft 365 account" even though I was already signed in, and clicking on allow access would just bring the warning back upon refreshing.

Which would happen every 20 minutes because it gives me a pop-up to sign in, with three buttons on the pop-up. Two are cancel buttons, and the actual sign in button is invisible. I was already signed in, of course. I couldn't continue working until a refresh.

Moving pictures is the biggest pain for some reason (and it isn't even better in LibreOffice Writer). It's been like this for years.

And then they have the gaul to start throwing AI everywhere when they can't even make their basic systems usable. I'm starting to root for Microsoft's failure these days, because they haven't done anything useful or innovative since the pandemic.

Disgruntled, I suggested that we switch to Google Docs (yes, I know it's Google, but we all already have Google accounts and we needed this done in a few hours), and everyone instantly agreed because I had just said their frustrations out loud.

[–] renard_roux@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

I'm starting to root for Microsoft's failure these days, because they haven't done anything useful or innovative since the pandemic.

That is the most insanely generous thing I've read in years. What the — pardon my French — fucking fuck have they done that was useful or innovative in the last 20 years?! 🤯

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks lol, I never use that word so I spelled it wrong

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The latest round of "stuff I wasn't informed would be installed for me" included enough software to switch me to Linux. I'm still dual booting during the transition, but moving fully over when I can.

I honestly used to love Windows too. Windows 10 was great, and 11 had problems but was still very usable on the happy path and came with some great improvements over time. These days, it's just so full of bloatware. I just want my damn computer to be mine, and I'd hope an OS license that retails for $200 would be enough to get them to stop advertising to me and shoving shit down my throat but I guess not.

Word and Powerpoint are good too, but there's some real competition there these days. I haven't needed those on my personal PC in years though, so that's never been a problem for me, and it'll continue to not be a problem as long as that software continues to require a subscription.

[–] Gazumi@mstdn.social 1 points 2 days ago

@TehPers @SuperSpruce Yeah, that's how i switched. Just booted into Windows less and less. Then realised just how terrible it was for boot up time, shut down time, use, etc.

[–] slauraure@beehaw.org 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I’ll normally tell my managers etc. when they have an idea that would not work well in the real world. However, many people seem like they have an almost theistic belief in the power of AI (maybe because they’re deeply invested) so I’m holding my tongue at work.

For the time being I’m doing my job properly but if I’m forced to do things a certain way even if it’s clearly worse I will comply and let them waste their money. I’m tired and I won’t police decisions above my pay grade.

Still biding my time and waiting for the bubble to pop and the next buzzword trend to arrive.

[–] BorgDrone 6 points 2 days ago

Have you tried using a blockchain though?

[–] MrPozor@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

AI is super interesting, and can be a valuable tool. But I feel like some managers, especially those who rarely use AI and don't know the limitations of LLMs still have a strong case of FOMO because competitors are using AI and they don't want to fall behind.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

A non-zero number of employees scripted random daily prompts to maintain LLM usage stars.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 11 points 3 days ago

Automation meets ersatz automation

[–] kronusdark@beehaw.org 7 points 3 days ago

oh, that's genius.

[–] fwygon@beehaw.org 6 points 2 days ago

This is problematic; and a perfect example why end users should not be trusting Windows 11, 12 or later, or any software that Microsoft outputs from now on.

AI CAN'T WRITE SOFTWARE, ONLY HUMANS CAN CREATE AT HIGH LEVELS NEEDED TO CREATE NEW SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS At Best, AI can tell you maybe what libraries might help you get 50% the way there; but it cannot, and should not ever be used to do all the work of a human.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 11 points 2 days ago

sunk cost fallacy let's gooo

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 14 points 3 days ago

I'm soon going to be forced to use an internal ai tool at my job. I'm not looking forward to it. These LLM's can be helpful in some use cases but it feels like they're some kind of buzzword magic element to make people think there's extra value

It's like when everything was "artisanal" for a while, and stores were attempting to charge more money because they put the word in the title of an item. It feels like I'm taking crazy pills watching everyone attempt to grift.

[–] HiDiddlyDoodlyHo@beehaw.org 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

AI at Microsoft has not been optional for months. Someone I know has a job at Microsoft and has described it as hell. No human guidance or training, when asking questions of higher-ups they're told to "ask Copilot", Copilot is used for all internal documentation such as employee records and user tickets so when they need to find someone's department or answer end-user questions they have to ask Copilot. They said it's like having a full on conversation every time they need a small bit of information that a spreadsheet or database could accomplish much quicker.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 16 points 3 days ago

AI at Microsoft has not been optional for months.

This is org-specific and role-specific, but it's becoming more and more pushed onto people (as is evident by this article).

when they need to find someone's department

This information is both present in most internal communication tools (org chart), and in the internal directory. Hopefully your friend found it.

Everything else sounds horrible, and I hope your friend is doing better now.

(Sauce: "I know a guy")

[–] rem26_art@fedia.io 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Your performance has dropped in the last quarter. Are you sure you're making use of the AI tools?" "Its because I'm using the AI tools. Its re-implemented an HTTP request library at least 500 different times in 500 different ways"

[–] idriss@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago

and none of them works

[–] matto@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

"And it always replies with 500 status codes"

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] megopie@beehaw.org 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nadella is perfectly sane and doing the most logical thing given his set of priorities and incentives. He’s payed insane amounts of money to push initiatives and pursue goals at the behest of the board, the board is attempting to maximize shareholder value, the value of stock is largely determined by perceptions of theoretical future growth.

The reality is irrelevant, the narrative and adhering to the party line is what matters.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Insert payed-paid bot here telling you payed is for boats and paid for transactions.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago

Insert "good bot" comment here

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

I'm so over this AI nonsense. I use AI as a barometer at work, in that the more they talk about AI, the more I know they are adding fuck all to the organization and aren't actually doing any work.

[–] acidowl@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

„Do not use your brain, ask the holy brainbot and it tells you what to think“

[–] SteevyT@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

We are the priests of the temples of Syrinx

[–] princess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago

sounds like the kind of policy an AI would make 🤔

[–] kronusdark@beehaw.org 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can the tech industry ever do a thing in moderation?

[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They have to keep pushing on this because they're all invested up to their necks. The allure of AI is that it offers to replace all human labor for a fraction of the cost, but AI only knows what it scrapes, and the models are starting to poison each other because the net is increasingly flooded with AI bullshit. When it fails, I think the entire tech sector's going to implode.

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 11 points 3 days ago

It’s not even really cheaper. Especially for Microsoft who is actually footing the bill to run all the data centers.

But, the potential benefit lies in the fact that it’s a potential labor substitute that can’t unionize, can be rapidly switched between different skill sets, won’t quit, won’t ask for raises, and won’t protest when you ask it to participate in DOD contracts. The labor that goes in to making it work is constant, uniform, alienated from the actual outputs of the system, and easily replaced if they start causing problems.

Want more capacity at the company? Build another data center. Need to pivot company priories to the latest fad? Just reduce token allocation form one department to another, no need to fire a bunch of people and wade through that legal mess, then wade through the mire of hiring a bunch of new people from a limited talent pool. Not using all the data center capacity? rent out the remainder to other companies.

It reduces the complex and intricate system of a company to a simple resource allocation that can be wielded at will by company leadership.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why don't we call the models poisoning each other incest?

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 8 points 2 days ago

So that we can discuss the issue without triggering abuse survivors would be a reason.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

one can probably automate the AI tools while you do something else.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 7 points 3 days ago

I don’t know if this is relevant, but I deal a lot with MS support in my role at work. There is some built in AI that you need to go through in order to open a support case, and it’s about 85% useless, and also has a caveat at the end that says “AI provided information may be incorrect”. However, there are cases where it’s useful, and I don’t have to deal with a human who copies and pastes a novel in their email to tell me they’re working on it.

Ive had cancellations processed after product upgrades and it went through in less than a day, and I didn’t have to read 5 paragraphs of bullshit canned script from a human. So it’s not all bad, I guess.

That’s the extent to which I use AI for work. I can’t imagine another use case where I wouldn’t have to double check everything, and if I have to do that, I may as well just do it myeself.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

Here's what's gonna happen: MS is gonna fuck around with the AI to force their desired stack ranking results.