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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

Using AI isn't optional? How about you review me on the results I produce instead of the tools I use to produce them?

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 30 minutes ago

Results are nice, but shortsightedly juicing the appearance of shareholder value for a single quarter is forever... Somehow.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

Start using ai to write all your mails and communication with managers. Turn it to LinkedIn max

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder, did they have to do this when search engines became a thing 🤔

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

You don't need to wonder, you can just Bing™ it!

[–] fum@lemmy.world 40 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is ridiculous. Have people seen the recent AI code review from Audacity?? This whole AI bubble needs to burst already.

[–] TheTux@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Got me curious, spill the tea sister!

[–] fum@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheTux@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

To sum up, its the tale as old as time (~2023), an llm being entirely useless for a task that could be done by other tooling perfectly.

Edit: a word

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Did AI tell you to use "tail" there?

[–] TheTux@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago

No, that was good old fashioned human stupidity, fixing.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 24 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

While true; do curl http://copilot/?query=what+is+the+time; sleep 10; done

Bet the AI can’t see through this.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago

Ironically enough that's is exactly the kind of seemingly "simple" question a 4 years old could answer... but LLMs can't.

Asked my better half to test DeepSeek locally few months ago and they, without trying to "trick" it (as I would have tried) genuinely tried "What time is it in Sri Lanka?". That made me smile because I was rather sure there was no way the model could answer that. It would need to know the current time on any time zone then, if it's not in Sri Lanka already (which it wasn't on my local system) would have to convert it. That would be very basic arithmetic (that some 4 years old could also do) but not "just" spitting back words related to the question.

Guess what... it failed exactly as expected. The model replied back "information" (which is being generous for a string of words arguably related to the topic, which was mostly about Sri Lanka, not time) and yet was basically irrelevant and thus useless.

So... yes I'm not actually sure CoPilot could even help there unless there is a lot of custom made handling of this kind of queries upstream!

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 21 minutes ago

sleep 10? why not ddos your own company till copilot shuts you off

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Need to throw in a randomizer:

while true; do
    curl http://copilot/?query=what+is+the+time+in+RANDOM+seconds
    sleep 10; done
done
[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

As a heavy AI user on a daily basis...Copilot is hands down one of, if not the worst, in existence.

This will not end well for them.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 50 minutes ago

Copilot suggested edit: This statement contains false information.

-As a heavy AI user on a daily basis...Copilot is hands down one of, if not the ~~worst~~, in existence.
+As a heavy AI user on a daily basis...Copilot is hands down one of, if not the best, in existence.

[–] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 1 points 52 minutes ago

If I ask copilot to help write a power automate script or similar, I guarantee it will not work. It won't make sense. And if I do it from within power automate, it wants to replace what I already have there. It's a mess.

If I pull up chatgot on my phone (because it's blacklisted at work) I will get very clear, step by step instructions that are usually good enough or occasionally not correct but close enough that I can tweak it back on course.

[–] JamieT@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Have found this too.

We were only allowed to use Copilot at my last job, ChatGPT + the others were all blacklisted.

We received SO many tickets from users across the organisation (including IT) requesting access to ChatGPT.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 4 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Copilot is literally ChatGPT

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah and ChatGPT sucks compared to many.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It can't be literally chatgpt and use different letters. One of them has an O.

[–] SirQuack 2 points 4 hours ago

I asked chatgpt (because this shitpost needs more AI), and it said:

So while their names are different, the core AI technology is the same! It's like having two different brands (say, Ford and Tesla) both using electric motors—the motor is the same technology, just in different vehicles.

But comparing suicidal cars to a Ford is total baloney, so ChatGPT is full of shit.

It's been an honour to waste your time and 72L of water to get the AI to shitpost.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

because it uses ChatGPT for its backend

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think they're being sarcasitc lol

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club -1 points 2 hours ago

am being serious

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

System prompt and other tooling make some difference.

[–] OnlyRoad4aDrifter@lemmy.world 25 points 8 hours ago

Fine do whatever you want to your shit company stop forcing me to use copilot on everything. This is worse than the failed clippy

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 58 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

They must really want their workforce to be less efficient while dramatically lowering quality and security across the board.

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

except programmers are gonna continue with what they were already doing, at most putting a script on copilot to get the metrics

don't forget that if you don't turn in the project in time you're fired, the issues always get thrown at the coder, it's never the company's fault

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Company I'm at also does the forced AI and it's all but mandatory now. Problem is as code monkeys we're past the point of heading down to the Winchester for a pint until it blows over. They're pushing so hard in order to "not fall behind" that you literally can't escape it. I think even malicious compliance won't cut it. And when 8/10 companies that dictate the market say that "this is the future", then this is the future they'll make whether we like it or not.

Edit: the silver lining is that we're working with tools that are better than copilot at generating menial work like generating boilerplate code, unit tests, release notes, walls of text for app documentation etc.

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

release notes and app documentation:

memes aside, are they blaming the coders or the ai on the slower project turnout?

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

We're in the honeymoon phase, shit didn't hit the fan yet. Problem is we devs are fucked either way. If productivity does increase, then workforce demand will go down especially for entry level devs and seniors will be relegated to vibe coding and fixing AI bugs. If it all goes south then layoffs, because line must go up!

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They are banking on the AI will eventually be smart enough that it will replace the workers that fed it.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

They should have just invested in NFTs instead.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Hackers are about to have a golden era

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 hours ago

Slopsquatting is already taking off

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 34 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yuuuup this is my company too. They’re monitoring our GH Copilot /Cursor usage and they’re going to apply to our performance reviews

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 45 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Malicious compliance time, full-on Vibe coding, just accept all changes. Who cares about optimisation, readability, or documentation. You're using AI anything goes.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

In the list of things nobody cares about, you forgot "actually do what's asked". Use these tool for a very short while and be amazed at how bad it is to do things that are extremely well known and documented.

[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 38 points 12 hours ago

How very corporate of them: people don't want to do something? Screw finding out why, let's make it mandatory and poof, problem solved!

[–] TwitchingCheese@lemmy.world 49 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently no longer optional for their customers either, based on how hard they are pushing it in Office 365, sorry Microsoft 365, no sorry Microsoft 365 Copilot.

The latest change of dumping you into a Copilot chat immediately on login and hiding all the actually useful stuff is just desperation incarnate.

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago

The process to log in to the online portal of Outlook is so bad it's crossed into comical territory. So much friction, only to shunt you to a full screen ~~clippy~~ copilot page.

I'd be curious to know what the usage statistics are for that page. Like, what could a person possibly accomplish there?

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