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[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 hour ago

Still thinking that salvation will come from within the system is peak levels of cope.

[–] opavader@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago) (1 children)

before that we also need to make sure superpac backed trash don’t get past the primaries.

trump got elected twice because dnc has become infested by shills like pelosi and schumer who keep sabotaging progressives like bernie and aoc.

pelosi will happily support ice and any anti-working class initiative as long she gets her cut. schumer is an israeli agent who would support brining back slavery if it allows idf to murder more children.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

also DNC wouldnt even investigate the eleciton rigging of the machines, 2 times it happened until it was too late, they are totally complicit. yes we know they are going to get called out as rigging the electiona s well.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Hahahahahahaha

Not even if the Dems had the vote. I am positive someone would block it for civility reasons.

The dems can not get out of their own way. See Zohran win in NYC.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

See Zohran win in NYC.

Why? The headlines on lemmy made me think that he is the good candidate.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yes he's wildly popular.

The DNC is considering not giving him the nomination regardless of his win of the primary.

Andrew Cuomo is running independent with his Super PAC that raised billions of dollars.

Bill Ackman is offering billions of dollars to anybody who can ensure that Zohran cannot win. Admittedly this last one's a bit of a stretch since this dude's also a trump supporter.

These are examples of the DNC not getting out of its own way.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The DNC is considering not giving him the nomination regardless of his win of the primary.

The Democratic National Committee does not decide State and Local nominations.

They can't even "refuse to nominate" for congression races. The only power they have is dictating the rules for the US Presidential Nomination.

Other than the Presidency whoever wins the primary is the nominee under state laws. Otherwise they could've just "refuse to nominate" AOC (which they had no legal power to do btw).

Their main power is mostly just money to buy propaganda. If people can just be smarter and ignore the propaganda, they could take over easily. The only reason the establishment maintain their power is because the people allows them to keep their power.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The dems can not get out of their own way. See Zohran win in NYC.

So vote to expand the progressive side of the dem party

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You mean to say our votes can override an organization that argued in court that since its a private service they could just ignore the vote of the people and pick who they wanted?

The same organization that always manages to organize and attack leftist like Zohran and Bernie but can't find any footing against Trump?

Yep. That will work. Just gotta vote harder.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Correct, so show up. We need to vote, and we need to protest.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 hour ago

Head is so deep in the sand. Keep coping bud.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I really really don't think that will change anything. People been trying to change the democrats for the better part of ten years.

Name one landmark foundational thing they have done in the last ten years thats really benefited the majority of Americans.

There isn't one that isn't a major concession that undercuts the original proposal.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You're right and part of that is people like you not showing up. None voting has had the most votes in all those elections.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

I am under no illusions that even if and it's a big if the Democrats managed to take back enough seats in both the house and the Senate to actually impeach and prosecute Trump that they still won't do it that they will be spineless and that they will offer supposed Olive branches across the aisle.

We had one guy win a primary in a mayoral race. You guys are acting as if this changes everything. It's interesting to watch for sure and there are lessons to be learned but that does not mean that everything is changing. It's not even guaranteed he'll win the Mayoral race. The DNC is even considering not giving him the nomination despite him winning.

The billionaire class is already mobilizing to try and ensure this guy never gets elected. Do you think they're going to make it any easier when he's in office?

By all means we should engage in electoral politics but we should not be under any illusions that it will fix the system we have nor should we be under any illusion that our politicians will save us from the problem that is Donald Trump. If anything the Democrats seem more than happy to capitulate to what he wants since they're not in the majority.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 hours ago

The first step is to crucify any Democrat that isn't willing to actually fight.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Can’t wait for it to be more corporate trash that pushes people into Republican arms!

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 28 points 10 hours ago

I am utterly convinced that it won't matter, but damnit we still have to fucking try.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (25 children)

It's time to take our fuckin country back

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

Never going to happen until the mega rich (who run the country) are afraid to walk the street.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

We need to make fascists afraid again

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[–] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 hours ago

Turn-out for primaries is minuscule. If you’re in a deep red state that has fully open primaries, you can request a republican primary ballot. I guarantee if you fully look into every primary candidate there will be a reasonable person who is at least open to impeaching or otherwise opposing Trump.

If it’s a partially-open primary state you will have to switch to independent to vote strategically in primaries.

If you’re in a deep-red state with closed primaries, it’s worth considering switching affiliations just so you can have some say in who represents you.

I know it’s like sifting through shit to find an edible kernel of corn, but it’s what has to be done to stop this in deep-red states.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I honestly quite afraid they are gonna rig the fuck outta the mid-terms somehow. I realize I have little to no evidence to support that, but doesn't mean it couldn't still happen under this regime.

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[–] BubbaGumpsBackLumps@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Ah yes, impeach the already twice impeached, 34 time convicted felon

These cunts don't care about law so stop taking the high road, when they go low, kick them in the fucking teeth

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[–] razzazzika@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Can't Trump just issue an executive order saying there's no more elections, or that Democrats are a terrorist organization and just like, not let any democrats win at all? Judges can't stop his executive orders anymore... he could just abolish congress at a whim.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

States hold elections. Sure he can try to send the military, but this is nationwide Bloody Kansas going into US Civil War 2.0. Expect the democrats who live in DC to just storm the white house if they start cancelling elections.

More likely they'd to the Turkey route, and eventually the Russia method. Sham elections are better than cancelling elections (for those in power).

[–] match@pawb.social 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

vote like it in checks notes a year and a half.. we need to be acting now and not waiting for elections.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

"33 Senate Seats are on the ballot"

LMFAO.

Let me introduce you to Staggered Elections

Only Maine's seat is even winnable, the other ones up for relection in 2026 are all safe Blue or Safe Red states

Currently its 53-47. Highly doubt that Dems can win 3 in Red States. (Unless we get a White Boi Hillbilly Revolution?)

The House cannot block juidicial nominations.

Judicial nominations are not subject to Filibuster.

So...

Not to be a pessimist, but...

Looks like an uphill battle...

😕

Edit:

Ask yourselves: Which of the red seats can Dems flip in 2026? (Grey ones are not up for election, only one seat is up for election per state due to staggered elections)

Despite this, you should still go vote! But don't get too excited. Its not safe until fascists are out of executive power.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago

After what I've seen the last 10 years I have absolutely zero faith that Americans can make this happen. I'd actually put money on them continuing to empower the traitorous Republican party and continue our descent into authoritarianism.

But I'll still show up and vote against them, like I always do.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 40 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Remember folks, every vote counts. We did this to ourselves.

I've said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard...

It's just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It's like the people who thought China paid the tariffs...

The house is almost tied. That's who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents...

218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.

Let's see, take New York for example.

26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.

5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.

People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn't matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.

Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.

Apathetic morons who don't realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.

District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.

Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state... Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.

So, if you think that your vote for president doesn't matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you're a fucking moron who can't grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.

And don't get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.

Every fucking vote counts.

And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we'll keep getting the shit we deserve.

House needs a simple majority, and two thirds of the Senate.

Democrats would need ~18 seats.

First, that won't happen in 2026.

Even the best cases make it hard to win enough by 2028. Which is why impeachment is just not something we can hold out for.

Gerrymandering is part of why this is a problem, which is done at the local level, and again why every vote counts.

How could it play out? Assuming some absurdly weird upside down world just opposite of what we're living in, this is the only path just looking at the numbers...

Again, Democrats would need to gain 18 net seats. Seats Potentially in Play (Republican Incumbents): This requires looking at seats up in upcoming cycles.

  • Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
    • Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
      • North Carolina (Budd-R)
      • Alaska (Sullivan-R) - Unique dynamics with ranked-choice voting.
    • Stretch Targets: States that are more Republican but could potentially flip under exceptionally favorable conditions (like the hypothetical turnout).
      • Iowa (Ernst-R)
      • Montana (Daines-R) - Depends heavily on candidate matchups.
      • Kentucky (McConnell-R's seat - potential retirement changes dynamics)
      • Kansas (Marshall-R)
      • South Carolina (Graham-R)
    • Very Difficult Targets: Solidly Republican states requiring overwhelming Democratic turnout and significant shifts among other voters.
      • Texas (Cornyn-R)
      • Mississippi (Wicker-R)
      • Alabama (Tuberville-R)
      • West Virginia (Capito-R)
      • Oklahoma (Mullin-R - Special election winner)
      • Wyoming (Lummis-R)
      • Idaho (Risch-R)
      • Arkansas (Cotton-R)
      • Nebraska (Ricketts-R)
      • South Dakota (Rounds-R)
      • Louisiana (Cassidy-R) - Jungle primary system.
  • Class 2 Seats (Up in 2028): (Looking further ahead)
    • Highly Competitive Targets:
      • Maine (Collins-R) - Often competitive, depends on matchup.
      • Georgia (Perdue/Ossoff dynamic showed competitiveness, depends who holds it after '26 potentially) - Assuming GOP holds a seat here.
    • Stretch Targets:
      • Michigan (Peters-D currently, but listing potential GOP flips back if one happened hypothetically before 2028) - Generally leans D, but could be contested.
      • New Hampshire (Shaheen-D currently) - Generally leans D, but listing potential GOP flips back.
    • Very Difficult Targets: (Many solidly Republican states)
      • Tennessee (Hagerty-R)
      • Alaska (Murkowski-R historically, depends on dynamics)
      • North Carolina (Tillis-R)
      • Iowa (Grassley-R seat potentially)
      • Texas (Cruz-R)
      • Kentucky (Paul-R)
      • And many others similar to the 2026 list (SC, AL, MS, WY, ID, NE, SD, KS, WV, OK).

It's going to take an absolutely historic level of pain to both drive enough people to vote MAGA out to make this change though.

The amount that's being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities...

We're on all on this shit ride until some new wildcard comes into play.

No impeachment, no Supreme Court, no guardrail is going to change that.

Something new and unaccounted for is the only feasible catalyst.

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