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[–] 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Here in the UK Musk is just seen as an idiot. Some decent European EV solutions coming along but the Chinese cars are so much better value than Tesla OR the main European makes. Couldn't happen to a nicer megalomaniac and as a plus I love seeing the monthly SpaceX explosions

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[–] Pirate@feddit.org 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Chinese electric cars are just better. BYD is what Tesla wanted to be, but actually fulfills its promises. Plus it isn't ran by a nazi dictator.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 26 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I uh.. you sure about that dictator thing? xi jinping enters the chat

[–] Pirate@feddit.org 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

If you think Xi Jinping is dictating what BYD does with their cars then you don't understand the fundamentals as to why China managed to attract so much foreign investment and got to where they are now in the first place.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (10 children)

Foreign investment was because of cheap labor and companies being subsidized by the communist government......

BYD might make a better car than Tesla, but saying that a Chinese company isn't "under the control of Xi Jinping", the guy who crushed Hong Kong for having too much independence and wants to do the same with Taiwan, is laughable.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's actually a bit of a myth you know. Labour in China used to be dirt cheap 30 years ago but that's not the case now. You need experts to build cars and they demand an appropriate salary. They probably don't get paid as much as they would in the west but they're not being paid pennies an hour either. However the idea that China is cheap has persisted.

There's a reason that Apple doesn't make the iPhone there anymore. It was getting too expensive ie they were being asked to pay for a decent wage, and they weren't prepared to.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 31 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Looking forward to Tesla reporting Q2 earnings next month. I assume another round of disastrous numbers paired up with some vaporware distraction. Perhaps they can keep this charade going, but at some point reality will catch up.

[–] HappyRedditRefugee@lemm.ee 6 points 14 hours ago

Is gonna go up, Elon said they'll have full autonomous this year! /s

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

Just give Elon more of some new drug. /s

[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 16 hours ago
[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Good, continue with the downward spiral.

[–] arunshah240@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

What a downfall Tesla

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And in the US we just block foreign options because it is gov policy to artificially support specific corporations.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

the country of free market capitalism...

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oddly libertarians never acknowledge that market leaders ask for theses things. The biggest threat to the free market are capitalists themselves.

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