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[–] Schal330@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

They'll do anything but tax the rich..

[–] cook_pass_babtridge@feddit.uk 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This guy is getting maybe 10 votes next election.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

From the left maybe. But this is exactly what Tories did in 2010. Then gained a majority.

A huge part of society just refuses to notice disabled people in society.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

they once gave 2p to a disabled person (through their taxes, maybe) and the problem hasnt gone away, so maybe it's time to exterminate them. i think that's where their heart is.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

Talk about a fumble from labour, you guys finally escaped the Tories after like what 15 years and it's just to get Tory light...

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Corbyn would never

[–] TroublesomeTalker@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious what the 'right' amount of people being supported that makes it magically sustainable. UK pop is close to 70 mil, with half a mil in Leicester (ISH). Let's be generous and say 0.5% of the population gets these PIPs then. Tax Rates are upwards of 40% for some folk, logically we can afford to care for this many people (and more). Hell the massive Social Security bill is always 2/3 pensions. I'd suggest raising the retirement age a year, which would more than cover the discrepancy, but there's some evidence that life expectancy is going to decline in the coming years, which in concert with the raising ages means retirement is going to be a luxury if they aren't careful. Of course the actual solution to this is the same one that never ever gets discussed. Raise wages and increase Tax take, given it's the wagies that actually pay tax, not the massive mega corps. I'd hoped for a visionary take on the Labour party, the focus being Great British Energy to get energy security, followed by a modern farms initiative to get food security. Instead we get the same old shit sandwich we've been being fed for thirty or forty years.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

From recent memory. 3.6m successfully claim pip. So 2.5 % of population.

But retired or under 18s are not pip elegable DLA still applied there. So above 5% of working population is more likely.

But most PIP claimsents are working. Often because PIP helps covers the every day cost of adaptions they need to live and travel independently. Holding a job down without it would be hard for all but the high paid. And even for them. These benefits reduce the cost to society of being 100% accessable. So removing them is a false economy. Many will need greater support without it. Leading to higher costs for the NHS and other (mainly council run) services.

As we saw very very clearly when the Tories did the same thing creating PIP to make claims for DLA harder for working age adults.