I don't know how many times I gotta say it, but something white leftists just can't seem to get:
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Can I participate here? I am not "white" and not even from the West but I am (technically, mixed family) not an ethnic minority where I live and I don't understand what person of colour means. It feels like a very US-centric term. In general, since the time I joined hexbear, I've felt like this website has a predominantly American worldview and culture, which at times made me feel unwelcome and misunderstood. This is why I've been wondering about this comm.
Not White, mixed, and not Western.
I'm not a mod, but sounds good to me, Comrade. 
Yeah you can.
It feels like a very US-centric term.
Skin color is used to delineate people into different groups pretty much everywhere
Yeah, but the weird thing is when you belong to an ethnic majority group within your country that is not discriminated against at a local level, but is discriminated against by larger national or international institutions.
Yes, you put it into words better than I have.
But people of color. Like, bruv, the only time such terms are made is when the country is mostly white American or white European descended
People of color ie people who don’t have the same skin color as the majority of the population
I know what it means. I bring it up because this person is concerned with not being an ethnic minority and/or person of color, in their own view, that can fit in this community
The term 'person of color', you don't hear this term being wielded else anywhere else outside of Europe and Americas, regarding anyone who is foreign descent and/or of different color.
Eg. Filipinos don't usually refer to Moros, ethnic Chinese, and ethnic Spanish people as people of color, even though they're ethnic minorities who don't have the same skin color or ethnicity as the majority.
Is this true? I've always felt that, in the Soviet Union and in the post-Soviet world, it is much more important what language you speak (in most post-Soviet countries this means "how well you speak Russian") than what you look like.
But even that aside, human skin is generally colourful so, without the cultural context of the US and Western world, it is not clear who is of colour and who isn't. As a result, it feels like the term itself is inextricably tied to this context.
it is not clear who is of colour and who isn't.
That's the neat part...whiteness and non-whiteness are arbitrary, made up parameters made by colonizers to justify colonialism and they're wildly inconsistent with their definitions! 😃
If it sounds fucking weird to classify humans based on random attributes, that's because it is. Racism is used to "other" people and racists will change who goes in what category based on whether or not racists can steal their stuff.
As Lussy puts out
People of color ie people who don’t have the same skin color as the majority of the population
and not the same ethnicity
I'd argue, maybe in your country, you're an ethnic majority, but here, since this is Euro-Amerikan dominated instance (Hexbear), you're a person of color and prolly an ethnic minority here
Being ethnic minority depends where you are, kinda
Being ethnic Russian is Russia is majority, but being ethnic Russian in Mongolia is minority, judging from populations
Just ended up getting the most pretentious Frenchie in my DMs all because he wanted to debate etymology with me. Here are some banger quotes:
[CW: Cringe, Brief Mention of French's Horrible History]
Him: "Etymology is the logical root of words. Without it, language becomes arbitrary, malleable, stripped of meaning. That’s exactly what the system wants: to twist words in order to twist thought. Newspeak begins here—when we forget that freedom, justice, or authority have precise, inherited, rooted meanings. To know etymology is to resist. It is to think clearly with words that still carry truth."
Him: "Every word carries historically constructed semantic content. Its etymology reveals not only its linguistic origin, but also the primary intention behind its use. For example, education comes from the Latin educere, « to bring out, to raise » a dynamic toward autonomy. If we redefine this word to designate simple conditioning or passive transmission, we negate this fundamental orientation. The word then ceases to designate what it designated. This creates a short-circuit of meaning."
Me: "No, this is not true. Etymology does not set rules. Like I said, please acknowledge the fact that you have to concede that 'girl' is gender-neutral in this case. You don't have to do a whole critical analysis here—it really is not that deep."
Him: "We don’t have gender neutrality in French. In German, they have feminine, masculine, and neuter."
Me: "Okay, but that's not relevant to the fact that we say 'girl' in English to mean 'female child' specifically despite it etymologically descending from a gender-neutral term"
Him: "So we can write anything arbitrarily and interpret words without foundation. Worse, we can lose words to ideologies"
Me: "Strawman argument. I said that words are defined by how they are used, not that you can use 'toaster' to mean 'tree.' My argument is that etymology doesn't prescriptively dictate the meaning of a word, and there are many examples of this."
Closed out with this:
Him: "I am not responsible for the lexical poverty of English and your difficulty in accepting that Latin words are relevant and based on implacable logic. Etymology is a major tool against obscurantism. Extremely so in France, where the system is violent in its distortion and dilution of words. It is a tool. An empirical DNA."
Me: "The system is violent in its distortion and dilution of words? Reminds me of how your people were violent to mine when they enslaved them. Now fuck off."
and then I blocked.
And how did this conversation start? Someone used the term "principle" instead of "doctrine" (in a particular context) in an Instagram story I shared, and he replied to it with, "It's a 'doctrine.' Not a principle!"
I shit you not. 🙄
Let me 
. Please let me please just this one time. I'm begging you. PLEASE
Wait wait wait....there's actually people who support the French trying to stop French from changing because the youth was using too much slang? That wasn't an elaborate bit? LOL deeply unserious language.
the fr*nch are so up their asses
Him: "I am not responsible for the lexical poverty of English and your difficulty in accepting that Latin words are relevant and based on implacable logic. Etymology is a major tool against obscurantism. Extremely so in France, where the system is violent in its distortion and dilution of words. It is a tool. An empirical DNA."
Uh, thats pretty fucking wild thing to say as someone from the imperial core
Frijoles y arroz con repollo till I die fr. I think one day even when I make it I'm gonna stick to these classics. Been eating this for weeks on end, gotta say got a real chance of living better still gotta finish this course and get my EPA 608 license. It's everything my parents ever hoped for for me, a good job and future. Powering through sickness and apathy for something better, once I make it I'll be able to pull up the rest of my family I hope.
Hate how every other post is like RACIST RIGHTWINGER SAYS MILDLY CORRECT THING, GOTTA HAND IT TO ‘EM
Ope, did I screw up? (I assume you're talking about the chisme post on MTG I did)
I guess that's the result of me reposting some r/Trueanon stuff here and there.
You want me to take it down?
No lol wasn’t exactly referring to your post and directing a pointed attack at you. I just see a lot of these posts, it’
White ppl on this site making it very challenging to not take a hiatus.
Unrelated: reading Blood in My Eye
White people when my freeform dreadlocks were in the earliest phases: "Have you considered combing your nappy ass hair?"
White people when my freeform dreadlocks are longer and mature: "OMG, WAOW. SO COOL! IT'S LIKE BOB MARLEY! THAT'S SO EXOTIC! OMG!"
I swear to fucking God.
Feel that hard. My hair is naturally curly and foreign whites, especially boomers, get very angry when it’s grown past a certain length.
White "leftists" be like, "No need to try to unlearn my white supremacist conditioning if I just act like POC don't exist!" 
i swear us americans treat travelling to different countries like going to another planet. a lot of "travel guides" especially to asian countries are lowkey racist and chauvinstic as fuck in a way i cant express clearly enough.
90 Day Fiancée I'm convinced exists solely to make my blood boil. I've only seen clips of it and it makes me want to slap the shit out of those scumbags.
I only watch the other way because I love seeing America's being put in their place. It still has the weird "look [foreign country] is so foreign" feel to it but with the benefit of not being in America. The scariest thing is how they seem to never run out of participants.
You see the clip of Ed going to the Philippines and he says "I'm going to this place called 'Manila.' It's a city somewhere. You heard of it?"
It's only one of the largest cities in the world, Ed. Only recently has it left the top 10. It's like that scene in Indiana Jones of the white British guy wandering around Egypt after Dr. Jones tells the bad guys his buddy will blend right in.
My favorite part is when the American wants to go back to the US because it's too foreign to them but the non-American is like "what are you talking about this is paradise to me". So suddenly leaving your home and everything you know isn't fun huh?
My favorite part is when the American wants to go back to the US because it's too foreign to them
What? Philippines is one of the Americanized countries in the world and he can't stand it being foreign. I'd bet my ass he'd drown in 3 inches of water without trying.
Anglo America's are weak af. They spend a day in a house without a water heater or half the water pressue and they would swear they spent a night in guantanamo.
There's another couple where the groom-to-be is from Nigeria and his fiancee, a white woman, goes to meet him for the first time. He shows her how they bathe at his house, which is to fill a bucket with hot water, soap yourself up with that, then rinse off with the shower running, rather than letting the water run the whole time you're in there. Makes sense, right? Especially when you're in a house with like 4 adults and you're on a limited budget with a small water tank.
With the look on her face, you'd think he told her to go bathe naked in the river using only a rock to scrub with and no soap.
The other way exposes American's casual racism and complete ignorance to the world outside of the US.
Jesus I despise..... Absolutely despise that shit. And they make an entire show and spin off of it
It’s extremely frustrating how popular that show is with Guatemalan women. Tbf I think most see it as cheap entertainment and don’t actually want to end up like those women.
The one that makes me laugh is anfisa. Lol she is..... Yeah no hell no but at the same time he lied about affording the millionaire lifestyle so thats a hell he created. At the end he ended up busted for drugs. People say they watch these shows for entertainment but the brainrot influence has a way of creeping in slowly 
One couple had a domestic abuse issue. But honestly I'd be surprised if all of em don't end up with that.
Sometimes you really do know some on here are too online, western(ized) and propagandized. It becomes immediately obvious through their mannerisms and speech patterns. Especially when it comes to anti-imperialist actors internationally.
I would like to type so much - but I know it won’t help so I am exhibiting some self-control.
There's nothing left to explain, I don't need to tell white people anything anymore, there's genocides going on supported by their governments, it's so obvious and so clear, you're an enemy if you don't recognize it.
Always thinking back to the fact that someone who I'm on good terms with and still talk to these days posted this on social media:
CW: Whte Lberal Being a Whte Lberal
"Genuine anti-racism doesn't make exceptions. If your anti-racism includes demonizing white people, it's not anti-racism. It's just racism."
I'm just starting to tell those crackers that there is indeed anti-White racism and I openly espouse it. There was a meme about that but I can't find it.
We're not going to get some of them on board so I don't care anymore.
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It's just racism.
Systemic oppression of Whitey is a good thing, actually, and I'm tired of pretending it wouldn't be fucking awesome.
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