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& I’m doing pretty good! The wefwef app has done a great job of recreating the Apollo experience and has made it a lot easier to not want to go and download the Reddit app. The more active it gets here, the easier it’ll be. How are you guys doing so far? Have you found an App for Lemmy that you prefer the most yet?

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[–] Digester@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah Lemmy seems the way forward. It just sucks for all the subs that won't be making it here anytime soon. Niche subs I'm following for example, I'll still have to rely on Reddit.

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's definitely a period of transition. I didn't expect to completely jump ship since I replied so heavily on reddit for community information and general news. However Lemmy does look really promising.

[–] Digester@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It does actually. I'm creating a community for one of the subreddits I was a part of, hopefully more people will join and fully migrate from Reddit.

[–] Coelacanth@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's heroes like you that make it all possible. Not everyone has the time or ability to moderate a new community, but it's great that those that do take initiative to do so. Once the community exists at all, it's much easier for others to start posting, which gets the ball rolling. There isn't any silver on this site to give but here, have a Lemmy Lemon 🍋

[–] Digester@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

When Lemmy gives you a Lemon, you make lemonade 🍋

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[–] HollywoodFlowers@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can‘t you just open them yourself?

[–] Digester@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I opened a couple sure but the problem is getting the traffic on here. I can't just make a post on the subreddit because it gets removed immediately by the mods.

[–] Freshfrozenplasma@vlemmy.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm here on the fediverse via Jerboa. I agree it's definitely deterring me from using the official Reddit app!

[–] D0NGBREAKER@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I'd been using Baconreader for about 10 years, and I'm blown away at how easy the transition has been. Still don't fully understand the fediverse (made my account yesterday lol), but this post was really helpful for getting started!

[–] G0nzo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is quite sad and yet at the same time also an exciting time. I was on Reddit for 9 years and it has kind of become the internet for me.

I myself was 99% only a passive user, so I have contributed nothing to the value of the site. But the site itself had a lot to offer for me.

But I also realized that Reddit, the platform itself, hardly provides anything relevant.

I probably would never have used Reddit much without a 3rd party app, I also use it exclusively on mobile.

For me, the value of the site comes exclusively from the content, i.e. the community. And fortunately, that's something Reddit has no direct control over.

I realize, of course, that not everyone will be here now in 6 months instead of on Reddit, but it doesnt matter.

I think the majority of users are like me rather passive, but more important are the active users of the community.

It is much more important to have these pillars of the community on board, as they will sooner or later ensure that something new is created that will then attract the larger number of passive users.

And I think it's this usergroup that has angered Reddit for the most part. These are power users who probably all use 3rd party apps.

Nevertheless, many will of course stay, if you have put a lot of work and heart and soul into building up your community/subreddit for years, letting go is of course much harder than for someone like me.

[–] Shambles404@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep 10 years of rif for me. I found towards the end it was getting pretty stagnant. Its exciting to see something new growing in real time. All aboard the fediverse express.

[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Not only something new, but also something that everyone in the community is excited about and have a vested interest in.

[–] Cowpie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wefwef made all the difference. While I know it’s not Reddit the similarities in experience have made the move much easier.

Also amazing to see the beginning of all of these new communities!

[–] pouines@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Wefwef is definitely worth

[–] ferne@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Honestly, I'm pretty excited about being a "pioneer" (sorry to those who have been here for longer). I never commented much on Reddit, but plan to contribute more here.

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[–] HungryKoala@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm happy that boost for Reddit is still working, but I know that once boost for lemmy is released I'll never look back at reddit. Fuck u/spez for how he treated his users

[–] Jah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems like Boost can go down any minute. It says it was shutting down on July 1 but it's still up.

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[–] depressed_submissive@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Still trying to find my footings. The thing I miss most is active engagement. The comment sections sometimes feel so empty. But I will give it time. All in all, I find the experience better than I anticipated. Using wefwef on my phone and the instance-site on my desktop and laptop. I am sure a decent app will be developed in time.

[–] pezmaker@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I felt that at first but I've found the engagement to be more meaningful here when it does happen, even though it's sometimes sparse or not at all. I came in the previous influx after spez started forcing subs open. I don't really miss it that much now.

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[–] Thardoc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I already don't miss it, will take a few weeks to break the muscle memory of opening a reddit tab every time I'm bored for more than 2 seconds

sidenote, has anyone been able to get dark mode to stick, or is that broken for now?

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Finally glad reddit is dying

[–] MegaUmbreon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly, I really want to use Lemmy, but the performance of Lemmy.world is almost a deal-breaker. Comments and posts don't load half the time, sometimes typing can even be slow wefwef. I feel like I've made my bed with lemmy.world and don't really want to make accounts on different instances in the hope of getting usable performance.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Move to a different instances

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[–] CashmereWitch@vlemmy.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ve been using wefwef too (and I’m also an Apollo refugee). Liking it so far, even if I am very confused about how a lot of this works. I hope the Lemmy community continues to grow!

[–] Necromnomicon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This isn't the best example, but helped me a lot in understanding it (mostly) It works kind of like E-mail. Each instance is like an email provider. Lemmy.world, beehaw, lemmy.ml, ect are kind of like gmail, yahoo mail, and outlook. So the instance you signed up for is your "lemmy provider" as if Google is your email provider. Now when you email people, you can email to any other provider (yahoo, outlook, etc) and vice versa. They are all similar services but different providers, but they all work together so any person can email any other person. They are federated - one big services, but each provider has its own autonomy in deciding rules, features, etc. So most instances can work with other instances to share information/posts. But not all. Some have deferdeated form others and don't share posts/information. As if yahoo said they we're no longer accepting emails from google. So gmail user's emails would not get sent to Yahoo mail users, but others, like outlook, would. You would say they defederated from google. Much like beehaw did from lemmy.world.

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[–] simo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Nice OP!

Same here, if anything this whole thing has done me a favour. Many times the past year i've considered giving up reddit. I tend to scroll reddit when I play with the dog after walkies, and the amount of time my brain says 'why you do this shit?' as I scroll past nothing, looking at comment chains of constant bickering. Why am I scrolling pasts hundreds of pointless comments, meandering bad takes, puns, the time wasted...for what gain? It was kinda an addiction I guess.

The first day has been great tbh, Memmy feels good despite the instance' slowness. The Hot filter is pretty good for catching newISH posts, or light comment posts which i've been tagging onto.

It really feels like old school forum days, and it's been really awesome to have my inbox popping off with replies. What's the point of lots of comments like a big reddit thread when no one replies or even sees your comment? Really looking back, it was just pissing in the wind.

Or if you did get a reply over on pigboycity, it would be some massive drangus trying to start a fight. Just ugh. I deleted my posts and account yesterday, now reddits just gonna be my suffix for google searches when I need something (until the fed starts getting indexed over the coming months/years).

I also really like the look here. old.reddit to me always looked shit from a UI standpoint (Despite being massively better than New, of course). lemmy.world just looks concise without being overwhelming. I'm excited to see growth and engage with real people again just like the old days.

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[–] MrBakedBeansOnToast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Learned about wefwef 30min ago and love it already. Now Lemmy is an actual alternative to Reddit for me.

[–] roi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Been holding off on wefwef until now. I did not realize it looked so closely similar to Apollo. I’ll be using wefwef forever now.

[–] mke_geek@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm having the hardest time using Lemmy. I got Jerboa and subscribed to 3 communities. However I see other communities online and Jerboa can't seem to find them. How can I force Jerboa to locate a community?

People keep saying Lemmy is easy to use but it doesn't seem to be so far even though I'm really trying to stay away from Reddit. That's one thing that Reddit has an advantage in, it's very easy to use.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy is still in a very early stage and development is accelerating super fast in the last weeks. I read somebody say Reddit was also very hard to use 15 years ago. However I can absolutely understand the frustration that can come with Lemmy and all the young apps.

I'm no expert but I see two possible solutions for your problem.

One could be that your instance does not know the community yet. All communities that are local on your instance should be found by Jerboa. The most other big ones too, because other users of your instance have already joined one of them (only after 1 person subscribed, the community is known for everyone). If you are looking for niche communities, you may have to search with the whole link, so search for https://feddit.de/c/ich_iel instead of ich_iel and wait for 10 seconds.

The other one could be to to set standard links for jerboa. You can do this on Android in the app settings of Jerboa, I don't know how the option is called in English but it should be easy to find. Same place where you delete storage and cache, handle permissions etc. If you press on "add links" you can select all the different instances (feddit.de, Lemmy.world etc.). Maybe you can open the community you want to locate by opening the link to it with Jerboa.

That's only some ideas. You can also consider trying out other apps such as Connect for Lemmy or Liftoff. It seems Slide and Boost will also be developed if I'm correct. It needs some time until everything is round, but so far most of us are amazed what has already been done!

[–] mke_geek@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Thanks for the suggestions. However they didn't work.

What's odd is that the instance I joined does seem to know about the other instance as I can see one community on the other instance. Could the community on the other instance be "hiding" themselves somehow?

Here's the one I'm trying to join: https://midwest.social/c/milwaukee

Edit: I finally got it to work! I went to the web interface for my instance and kept searching for it and then it finally found it. Once the web interface found it, then Jerboa found it.

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[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People who say Lemmy is easy to use don't understand that it's difficult to get people with a centralized mindset to understand this whole fediverse thing. I'm going to try and explain a bit of what's going on in the background, not really the step by step that @gigachad@feddit.de went into.

The way it works is that an instance can have communities. Those communities can be subscribed to by any user on any instance (barring federation blacklists/whitelists, but that's a whole other rabbit hole).

Subscribing to a community that nobody on your instance has subscribed to yet will start the process of your instance pulling in all the information. Your instance will essentially have a local copy of that community that you can interact with. It will then periodically synchronize with the instance that hosts the community.

A brand new instance will not pull in anything from any instance. Users have to subscribe to start the process of pulling in communities. In theory (software bugs, network issues, servers being overloaded, etc all play havoc here), interacting with a community on another instance should feel relatively seamless. You post a comment, it gets synced to the home instance, then all other instances pull your comment from the community next time they sync.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. Only been a Lemmy user for like 2 months, but been following the fediverse for a while now.

[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I’m doing just fine 💙 need to get out on the water though…

[–] drizzle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Enjoy the fediverse !

Checking in at 2 weeks without Reddit, and I'm so happy that this forcing function got me to discover Lemmy and the fediverse. I enjoy it so much more, I'm browsing multiple instances and it feels like the days I discovered Reddit.

As for apps, just FYI Lemmy and KBin are progressive web apps so you can click "add to home screen" and get an app for free, I've been using it that way exclusively so far and it works well enough for me.

[–] Tanel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Mlem and Memmy are quite tolerable

[–] goodmarshmallow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I could easily see this being a more seamless switch than we feared. So far I am hopeful!

[–] NeuralPlanet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Lemmy is amazing. 1 day clean from reddit was easy, let's do 1 year next!

[–] Razgriz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm surprised at how easy it was to make the switch. Now that servers are stabilizing here this is pretty much a very similar experience.

[–] NeuralPlanet@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I kinda prefer Lemmy atm. It feels fresh in a way Reddit hasn't in a long time.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It'll be nice if more and more migrate over.

There's something amusing about opening up what's almost a Reddit clone a day after and seeing content and subs that would have been exactly like it was on Reddit here instead.

As long as momentum continues, we may see more and more leaving Reddit for what's nearly the same thing with a lot less BS.

I just hope Lemmy servers and infrastructure can handle the growing popularity, especially once there's popular native clients that switch from Reddit to it.

Would be very happy if spez ends up having killed his own platform in future retrospection though.

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