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The attack on the 50-year-old executive—allegedly by the now 27-year-old Luigi Mangione—immediately sparked an outpouring of public fury not at the gunman, but at UnitedHealthcare itself.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I can't even start to understand how a healthcare organization has a stock price. They should be nonprofits to start with.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And this brings up the other thing they are struggling to recover from. They were sued by blackrock for taking care of people too well.

Blackrock, that investment firm that you can't even divest from because your pension is tied to it. Which really peels back some layers on root cause analysis. Because blackrock and vanguard get management of this money pretty much by default when there is an institutional pension they have fuck you money. As in fuck you, it's my money till 40 years in the future.

The Healthcare United CEO is just middle management. All he's doing is taking orders in hopes doing that enough means his company survives. If he doesn't then the private equity firms and banks just fund the guy who will.

Larry Fink is the real management.

[–] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

They weren't sued for helping take care of people. It was a misleading headline. Theyre getting sued for failing to commit to taking care of stock holders.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (3 children)

However, while it's understandable for consumers to get angry at their health insurers, it is also important to remember "there is no easy answer" for such companies as they navigate costs and care, Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told Newsweek.

There is a very easy answer. Eliminate the health insurance companies. They do not improve healthcare and serve only to increase costs by extracting profit.

Luigi offers an easy answer

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The profit motive does not belong in any industry of necessity.

The capitalists have metastasized into education, Healthcare, and bastardized any and all forms of food to maximize profit at the expense of their humanity.

They've brought us to our knees, and before the capitalists are done, death will be a mercy to most.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Education in the US was at its height when it received ample public funding.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They are a wholly unnecessary middleman extracting a rent where none is due. They slow down the speed of care and needlessly complicate a very simple system.

It should not exist. They're the landlords of medicine. Entirely pointless and nothing more than a detriment to the profession, service, and function of healthcare no matter if its picking up a z-pack for bronchitis or having a tumor removed. Healthcare insurance serves no purpose whatsoever.

A single, (truly) non profit insurer that has no ability to deny coverage and is fully funded by income tax could have an administrative purpose.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Prosecute United Healthcare for murdering their policy holders.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Literally murdering. They were asking healthcare providers at assisted living facilities to change elderly patients' records to add DNRs that the patients hadn't authorized.

Literally altering medical records to make sure people die instead of costing money.

[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Fucking excellent. Hope we see a hundred more Luigi’s.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago

Free Luigi, and compensate him with a few million dollars from United Healths bloated coffers for inflicting so much anguish on this innocent young man.

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

The Shakespeare of our time

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't this headline a bit legally sketchy being at he's not been sentenced yet

[–] SoloCritical@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This comment is legally sketchy being that in order to be sentenced you need to be guilty? He hasn’t been found guilty yet.

[–] Padit@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

ESPECIALLY, since he was at my place, playing PS5 with me, when the Murder allegedly happened!

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And either before or after he was at my place vibe coding some fixes for civ6. Guy is a real GOAT.

I was there when the murder happened. It was a one armed man. This whole thing is a witch hunt.

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[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The United Healthcare AI that killed your grandmother and mine is still at large.

We can talk about Luigi's alleged crime once this systemic violence is deposed.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AI is just like the "illegals" that "stole" your job. Profits dictated that the company hire someone for much less than you. AI didn't invent itself to steal your job. AI didn't wake up and decide it's gonna let Grandma die in the nursing home. The company let AI do it, set the guidelines in which AI would come to that conclusion and ultimately pointed AI at every customer and hit the on button.

Please don't manufacture this as an AI crisis. It's a healthcare crisis caused by greedy people. End of story.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Fair point. AI is a tool.

In the hands of Anarchists, we could use AI to make Salvador Allende's CyberSyn dream come true, even without a State.

And in the hands of Capitalists, it is a tool for mass murder. That doesn't absolve the murderers. It condemns them all the more for their lack of imagination, their inability to see beyond their quarterly profits.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

Oh no...

Anyway

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 89 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love reading a feel-good story.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We gotta take anything we read on media sites like Newsweek with a shovel of salt. Newsweek is a shadow of its former self.

That said, yeah United's stock evaluation took a huge hit. But it's still higher than it's been in decades. It's likely to turn around as these kinds of companies have a lot of tricks for restructuring and continuing business as usual. We have a long way to go before we see these kinds of companies actually fear the people they're supposed to be serving.

[–] frankpsy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly don't trust Newsweek at all. Kept on promoting the idea that Biden totally had the election, comforting lies is all they provide and I don't read the news to feel at ease.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 293 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Luigi allegedly killed one man

United Health kills thousands on a regular basis

EDIT: .... thanks for the clarification (I'll remember it from now on)

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 142 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Luigi has yet to be convicted of anything, but the sentiment remains.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 108 points 3 days ago

That's even better

Luigi allegedly killed one man

United Health most definitely kills thousands on a regular basis as a matter of company savings and profits

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[–] Proles_Uprising_Now@lemmy.world 108 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Great news and this comment would get me banned elsewhere and that's why I am here .

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bold of the writers to chose the word "Recover" as related to Luigi. Could have been something like, "United Healthcare Struggles to Resume Exploitation After Luigi" or "Unites Healthcare Struggles to Interfere with Healthcare after Lugi".

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 182 points 2 days ago (16 children)
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[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I don't give a single shit about the welfare or public approval of any large profit corporation. I care even less about UHC specifically.

Anyone who still works there is complicit. The entire health insurance industry needs to be taken down and everyone involved shunned from society forever. It's an atrocity.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (27 children)

Hey, where do you work? - Oh I work in the health insurance industry - That's disgusting, I am leaving.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 204 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Have they tried not being evil by design?

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 100 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure their struggles aren't b/C of Luigi. It's b/c they murder people.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 134 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The shooting "tarnished UnitedHealthcare's reputation and disrupted its operational stability," Ge Bai, a professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Maryland, told Newsweek.

No, it did not, don't pin that one on Luigi.

UnitedHealthcare did that all on their lonesome, by profiteering on people's pain and suffering.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago

“In a statement today, interim CEO of Cockroach Inc. expressed extreme displeasure that Luigi shined a light on their roaches nest for others to see.”

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Oh no that’s unfortunate.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 2 days ago (29 children)

1st, Luigi didn't do it.

2nd, when was Brian Thompson's killer the CEO of United...?

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[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They're struggling to get over their own policies which were already unpopular but did serious damage once people discussed how crappy those policies were. Luigi was the spark. They built the house of match sticks and poured gasoline on it.

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