Having to explain how you ended up in a death camp in El Salvador when you came to visit legally as a tourist.
this post was submitted on 02 Jun 2025
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yeah. 2025 is just not the best timing for that activity.
Trying to create an answer that is more universal than our current political situation.
It's too damn big. There isn't any such thing as visiting the USA. You can see a little tiny bit, and what you choose will color your viewpoint.
It's 50+ countries in a trenchcoat. Pan-Americanism, in the US context, is laughable at best and absolutely a shambling nightmare at worst. There's several reasons why our government sucks. But the sheer size of this fucking empire is the top of the list.
Before the end of the century, it's going to Balkanize hard.
Being detained upon arrival and immediately being sent back (if you're lucky) is just the start.
Dude just open a newspaper it's plainly obvious why not.
It's dangerous. People are a 35 times more likely to be killed by guns than my country.
What that data fails to properly explain is that outside of a few counties you are basically never going to see a gun homicide in the US. The city I live in has some of the highest gun crime in the country, but it is almost exclusively in a few small areas that tourists would never really go anywhere near.
Of our yearly gun homicides ~82% of it is African Americans killing other African Americans. Often in gang related disputes in very specific areas in a couple of states.
Depending on where someone is visiting they are likely much safer here than in many other countries on average.
Statistics are a wonderful thing, but it's important to fully understand the data rather than just applying that average to the entire united states without any nuance.
Mississippi had a gun death rate of 29.6 per 100k in 2022.
Rhode Island had a a gun death rate of 3.1 per 100k in 2022.
Both those numbers include suicide by gun and suicide has outpaced homicide for at least the last 40 years.
Another thing to note is that the USA over all has lower gun homicide rates today than back in 1970s.
For comparison Jamaica had 44.7 gun death per 100k in 2022.
The Bahamas had 28.5 per 100k in 2022.
Plenty of people still feel comfortable traveling to those places year round.
The fact you had to name Jamaica and Bahamas, both incredibly poor developing nations as comparison to get remotely close to our gun violence is proof you should not come here.
....did you read my comment at all? I very clearly stated that those are popular tourist destinations that people are still visiting all year round. As in people don't find THOSE places too dangerous to visit why should they worry about america?
Both of those places are significantly more dangerous than the overwhelming majority of America as I very clearly explained in the rest of my comment.
I don't think you read my comment at all. If you did you certainly didn't understand anything I said.
Try again.
"Only if you compare United States to some of the most impoverished developing Nations in the world" is horrifying - you don't see that?
If you donβt see the enormous double standard you applied in your last comment, then thereβs nothing more for anyone to discuss here.
You could get put in jail for no reason and risk being sent to a concentration camp.
To not support USA financially