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Image is from the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists' recent article on Kashmir.


It looks like the spat between India and Pakistan could be dying down, due to a new ceasefire. As of the time of me writing this paragraph, it seems both sides want to maintain it (despite some reports of violations here and there).

Both sides have declared victory, which is completely expected given their mutual political parties and nationalist histories. It's a little harder to say which side has actually won, as both sides seem to have managed to shoot down aircraft and hit military bases. India has, in my opinion, had the more embarrassing moments, but international conflicts aren't cringe compilations. I feel no good-will towards Pakistan's comprador government, but it is at least nice to see Modi knocked down a few pegs. Regardless of the final technical victor, it's obvious that - if the ceasefire is maintained - who won are the hundreds of millions of people who won't have to live in fear of dying in nuclear hellfire.

This conflict is a good example of what multipolarity will truly entail. Countries that have been previously limited in their nationalist ambitions by American pressure will now take opportunities to revolt, sometimes against America itself, and sometimes against other countries in their regional neighbourhood. It's also why, as communists, our goals do not stop at multipolarity; it is merely the establishing act of a new era of agitation against peripheral and semi-peripheral capitalist countries that are forming powerful national bourgeoisie classes as the international American capitalists are forced away.


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Israel-Palestine Conflict

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Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 57 points 22 hours ago (8 children)
[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 36 points 20 hours ago

Man the 24/7 365 day per year campaign mode of The Burger Reich is utterly exhausting

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 34 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The reason Obama won was because he talks good. And the reason Biden won was because he was friends with Obama. So we just need a candidate who either talks as well as or is friends with Obama...

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] companero@hexbear.net 49 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

When he loses the libs are gonna say it was because he was gay and what they really need next time is a straight white male

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[–] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 35 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I have ... HIGH HOPES ... for his candidacy!

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 16 points 20 hours ago

still pleasantly surprised I haven't heard the song

[–] miz@hexbear.net 22 points 22 hours ago

munna muh MUH NUH NUH munna muh nuh

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[–] Salem@hexbear.net 73 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/South-Africa-v-Israel.pdf

If anyone wants to be reminded of the case against Israel in the ICJ.

I suspect that Netanyahu is prolonging the war to occupy all of Gaza to facilitate the cover up of the corpses and maimed bodies. The bulldozers also crush bone and decayed flesh into sludge; the bodies are erased - they are unidentifiable and near unquantifiable - not unlike cremation.

I think Trump's Freudian slip of the numbers left in Gaza was likely close to the truth; as he said in his plans to relocate 1.5m people. That the truth is there are 1.5m people left in Gaza.

I think the ICJ/ICC are waiting for the war to end, but more than likely the individuals in charge of these institutions are being blackmailed, bribed, and threatened by the US, Israel, and other Western accomplices.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 43 points 22 hours ago

Pictures of urban destruction like we see in Gaza never communicates the overpowering stench of rotting corpses. There are thousands of people who were buried under rubble that haven't been included in any official death toll

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 22 points 21 hours ago

Likely less than 1.5 million tbh.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 34 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Retvrn of the porky watch:

please be saudis pray-against (because i dunno what else happened since start of may to drop them, aside from oil prices)

*also little black pilled article https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/05/13/brics-nations-and-israel-hype-hope-and-helplessness/ , mainly concerned with south africa, but touches on everybody in brics re: isntreal

[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 63 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

🇺🇸🇸🇦🇸🇾 Trump says US to lift Syria sanctions, secures $600 billion Saudi deal

Speaking in Riyadh, Trump said he was acting on a request to scrap the sanctions by Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler, Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

“Oh what I do for the crown prince,” Trump said, drawing laughs from the audience. He said the sanctions had served an important function but that it was now time for the country to move forward.

Syrian Foreign Minister Asaad al-Shibani said on X that the planned move marked a “new start” in Syria’s path to reconstruction.

Bafoonishly corrupt, but ultimately good for the people of Syria to lift the sanctions. Now this will be used to make the current regime in Syria look better than it should. In the future, be ready with this event in mind when people say Jolani was a saint.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 27 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

For some reason I watched the whole address. It was so bizarre. He just stood on stage while they played that "proud to be an American" song in full, but the camera angle showed the comically large Saudi flag behind him. Then he talked for a long time just fawning over MBS, and the camera kept cutting to a very awkward MBS smiling and a deeply uncomfortable Musk behind him.

Tangential to the article, but I just wanted to share.

Edit: I forgot he also went on an anti-neocon rant which really caught me off guard.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 69 points 1 day ago (6 children)

FORMER URUGUAYAN PRESIDENT PEPE MUJICA PASSES AWAY

José “Pepe” Mujica, former president of Uruguay and one of the greatest icons of the Latin American left, died on Tuesday (13) at the age of 89. Battling oesophageal cancer and an autoimmune disease, he was under palliative care and decided to stop treatment in January.

Mujica was a guerrilla fighter, imprisoned for almost 15 years during the dictatorship, seven of them in solitary confinement. After re-democratization, he governed Uruguay between 2010 and 2015, always faithful to a simple style. He donated 90% of his salary, lived on a farm and drove an 82 VW Beetle. Under his leadership, Uruguay advanced progressive policies such as the legalization of abortion and the decriminalization of marijuana. "You need to give meaning to life. Fight for happiness, not just wealth."

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[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It was a long time coming, but it is still very sad.

Hasta la victoria, Pepe. Buen viaje.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is extremely saddening...

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 33 points 23 hours ago

Yes, at least he saw his candidate and party win last elections against the neoliberals. And I still find it very sad how the two leftist presidents of Uruguay died of cancer, Tabaré Vázquez was also an oncologist and died of cancer in 2020.

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 70 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Trump has decided not to rename the Persian Gulf to the 'Arabian Gulf', after Iran reportedly threatened to pull out of the negotiations – CNN

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Former Uruguayan President Pepe Mujica Dies at 89 - Telesur English

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Latin America mourns the death of the Tupamaro guerrilla who became a world symbol of political coherence and honesty. Former Uruguayan President José “Pepe” Mujica passed away this Tuesday, May 13, 2025, at the age of 89 at his farm in Rincón del Cerro, Montevideo, after battling a terminal phase of esophageal cancer. He was accompanied by his wife, Lucía Topolansky

Although Jose Mujica withdrew from electoral politics, he remained active in the grassroots work of the Popular Participation Movement, continuing to serve as a prominent figure for the Latin American left until the end of his life. This iconic leader governed Uruguay from 2010 to 2015. In his youth, during the 1960s and 1970s, Mujica was part of the National Liberation Movement–Tupamaros, a guerrilla group remembered for its daring operations in urban resistance against the dictatorship.

He spent approximately 13 years in prison. Mujica was captured multiple times and imprisoned from the early 1970s until 1985, during Uruguay’s civic-military dictatorship. He endured harsh conditions, spending most of his incarceration in solitary confinement. Once released, he became involved in party politics. As president, Mujica became a global reference point for his extremely austere lifestyle and his commitment to fighting poverty and promoting social equality.

“Pepe Mujica was a Tupamaro, a leftist, and anti-imperialist. He was the Uruguayan president who legalized abortion, marijuana, and gay marriage. His political impact on human civilization was so positive, and he remains an icon of freedom and dignity for Latin America.”

Early Steps Toward an Unwavering Social Commitment

Born in Montevideo in 1935, Mujica spent much of his youth working in the countryside. In the 1960s, he became interested in agricultural and social issues, which led him to active political engagement. This occurred as Uruguay’s economy began to stagnate, hitting the middle and lower classes the hardest.

In 1962, Mujica left the National Party and joined the Tupamaros, an urban guerrilla movement with a Marxist orientation inspired by the Cuban Revolution. There, he met Lucia Topolansky, who would become a legislator, vice president and his lifelong partner. Mujica participated in guerrilla actions and was imprisoned multiple times, the last being in 1972 at the beginning of the dictatorship. He spent most of his confinement in solitary isolation until his release in 1985, when democracy was restored in Uruguay. That experience deeply shaped his later focus on dialogue and social peace.

After his release, Mujica entered electoral politics. Alongside other former guerrillas, he co-founded the Popular Participation Movement, which became a faction within the Broad Front, a left-wing coalition founded in the 1970s. Mujica was elected to the legislature in 1995 and became a senator in 1999. In these roles, he contributed to the legalization of informal labor and improvements in social security for urban workers and farmers. From 2005 to 2008, he served as minister of agriculture during the administration of Tabare Vazquez. His impeccable reputation and enduring popularity propelled him to the presidency in 2010.

Mujica’s Latin American Dimension

During his presidency from 2010 to 2015, Mujica implemented social inclusion and welfare policies. A key example of his progressive outlook was the passage of the Equal Marriage Act in 2013.

His “Together Plan” focused on improving housing conditions for the poorest families, while the “Equity Plan” continued financial support for households with children in vulnerable situations.

Although Mujica was unable to carry out a major educational reform, the Uruguayan economy continued to grow, and poverty declined steadily during his administration.

He diversified Uruguay’s productive matrix without abandoning agricultural investment, strengthening the country’s position as a food exporter. One of his most groundbreaking initiatives was the 2013 legalization of the production, sale, and consumption of cannabis—a global first.

Internationally, Mujica sought diplomatic balance and promoted dialogue as a means of resolving geopolitical conflicts. Under his leadership, Uruguay solidified its role in regional organizations such as the Southern Common Market (MERCOSUR) and the Union of South American Nations (UNASUR).

A Politician Who Shone Through Simplicity

After completing his presidential term, Mujica remained active in both international and national politics, while his image became amplified by his charisma and wisdom. At various forums and institutional settings, he continued to passionately advocate against imperialism and for the self-determination of peoples.

Known for his austere lifestyle and concern for environmental issues, Mujica frequently urged world leaders and citizens alike to adopt a more humane and less consumerist mindset—one that aimed for sustainable development for future generations.

“We have invented a mountain of superfluous needs. Shopping for new, discarding the old… That’s a waste of our lives! When I buy something, or you, we’re not paying with money. We’re paying with the time from our lives we had to spend to earn that money,” he said.

Mujica returned to his Senate seat from 2015 to 2018. Later, he continued to influence public discourse as an active commentator on political and economic developments. In April, he announced his intention to step away from the public spotlight due to being diagnosed with esophageal cancer.

Nevertheless, to the extent that his health allowed, Mujica remained politically active as a committed grassroots member of Uruguayan left. He participated in several campaign rallies during the election that brought Broad Front candidate Yamandu Orsi to the presidency.

“To live in accordance with how one thinks, that’s what I call having dignity. That’s how I try to live. And I don’t say that others should do it, but I do believe that if politicians lived like the majority, they would be respected,” said Mujica, a man who donated most of his presidential salary, drove an old Volkswagen Beetle, and lived in a modest farmhouse—choices that made his words resonate far beyond Uruguay.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago

For a musical memorium, here's 13 minutes of afrobeat featuring one of his speeches:

(excuse the automated translation)

We promise a life of waste and waste. Deep down, it is a countdown to nature and humanity. Civilization against simplicity, against sobriety, against all natural cycles, against all natural cycles

But worse

"civilization" against the freedom of having time to live from human relations the only thing transcendent: love, friendship, adventure, solidarity, family...

Today is the time to start fighting to prepare a world without borders

The globalized economy has no other drive than the private interest of very few

The great task for our peoples, in our humble way of seeing... is the whole

It would be imperative to achieve planetary consensus

To unleash solidarity towards the most oppressed

Tax-catching waste

And the speculation

Mobilize the great savings

Not to create disposable

With calculated obsoleence

But useful goods, no frivolities

To help lift the world's poorest

Yes, the high politics intertwined with wisdom

Our time is potentiously revolutionary

As you have not known the history of humanity

But he has no conscious driving.

Or less driving simply instinctive

Much less still

Organized political driving

Because we haven't even had precursor philosophies

We need to govern ourselves, or we succumb

This is our dilemma

Let's think about the underlying causes.

In the civilization of waste

In the civilization of insisting that what you are throwing away is time for wasted human life

Squandering on useless issues

Think of human life as a miracle

That we are alive by miracle

And nothing is worth more than life

And that it is our biological duty, and above all things

Respect life and drive it."

He certainly did.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Two ballistic missiles launched by Yemen at Israel, one launched at Ben Gurion airport, likey intercepted in the terminal phase by THAAD or Arrow 2 triggering air raid sirens (multiple interceptors were launched after the initial launch of Arrow 3 interceptors) with debris landing in Jerusalem, another intercepted or fell over Saudi Arabia, no air raid sirens for that missile. The air raid sirens were for ~~Hamas~~ PIJ’s Al-Quds Brigades rockets, in response to a large Israeli bombing in Gaza, targeting the "European Hospital", killing 28 people. Apparently this strike was an assassination attempt on Mohammed Sinwar, but that is unconfirmed information.

Yemeni Armed Forces statement on the first ballistic missile launch, no statement on the second yet:

Israeli airstrikes on the European Hospital:

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You may have explained it before, but why does Yemen send so few rockets at a time? It seems like the best option would be to send many at different targets and push the zio's ability to intercept them to the max

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The simple answer is that a Maneuverable Re-entry Vehicle (MaRV) equipped medium range ballistic missile (MRBM) is very expensive to produce. The first ever missile of this class, the Pershing-II developed in the 1980s, cost $10 million each. Now costs have gone down and these systems have proliferated, but they still are quite expensive. The IRGC has said that a Fattah-1 MaRV equipped MRBM costs $200 000 just to manufacture, excluding research, development and training costs, upkeep and maintenance, deployment cost, etc. The Palestine-2 missile Ansarallah/the Houthis in Yemen use is a Kheibar Shekan/Fattah-1 variant. So even with costs having gone down by quite a large amount since the 1980s, each Palestine-2 missile costs hundreds of thousands, potentially over a million dollars. Only large state actors such as Iran can afford to fire large volleys of these missiles while maintaining readiness and stockpiles.

Given that, Ansarallah's strategy is to mostly target countervalue targets in Israel like airports, with very limited strikes on counterforce targets like military installations. Now 100% interception of missiles aimed at a countervalue targets, where even a near miss can cause large economic damage (such as the missile that impacted around 500m from the Ben Gurion airport terminal) is impossible. Yemen just needs to trigger the air raid sirens every few days, and have a missile slip through the defensive net every month or two, to achieve their objectives at this level of exchange. Even if Israeli countervalue strikes (like the Israeli airstrikes on airports, seaports and cement factories a few days ago) do a disproportionate amount of damage, Ansarallah is prepared to absorb that, at least for now. This is what Trump means by saying "they're prepared to take a tremendous amount of punishment". It kind of breaks the traditional escalation model, usually if you hit your adversary much harder than they it you, the adversary ceases attacks. That doesn't work in Yemen for a number of reasons, mainly to do with Ansarallah's ideological commitment to the Palestinian cause, and the US-Iran situation.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

i suspect not the cost, but rather oxidizer (i assume they are solid fuel?) and avionics are a crucial snag, you have to import those fuckers, can't make them for bullshit lying around (well, you can but it would be rather noticeable installation).

*i actually wonder, avionics with modern powerful step motors can become achievable for diy anti-genocide enthusiasts

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

At the end of the day, an autopilot system is just a collection of PID controllers. These are systems which are used throughout the world of navigation, industrial machinery, and robotics. The most familiar example would be the cruse-control system on a car. It has one setpoint, and adjusts the throttle to reach that setpoint without severely over/undershooting it. As you drive up a hill, it increases the throttle to maintain speed. As the road levels off and the speed begins to over-shoot the setpoint, it reduces the throttle to bleed off this excess speed.

These things are closed loop systems. They manipulate an output directly (voltage to an electric motor, for instance) while monitoring an input (rotations per minute or angular distance, for instance) which directly influences the output. With properly tuned parameters, they can adapt quickly to changing forces, like transient pressures on a control surface introduced by turbulence. These systems can be built in layers, where one layer might aim to keep the control surfaces at a set position, while a higher level system may adjust those setpoints to maintain some other value like airspeed, altitude, heading, etc., and then an even higher level system may adjust those setpoints to execute something resembling a flight plan.

Stepper motors typically aren't used for systems like this, but you could effectively turn a stepper motor into a poor man's servo by simply adding a linear / axial encoder so its movement can be measured, provide feedback, and account for "skipped steps." They almost certainly aren't strong enough for jet / rocket propulsion, but if we're talking DIY and using what you've got, the same principles apply.

Thinking to myself: Surely somebody must have started an open source project dabbling with stuff like this. Sure enough: https://ardupilot.org/

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 6 points 17 hours ago

Sounds simple but not easy

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also heat shielding, atmospheric re-entry at Mach 14+ is quite a violent experience. The heat shield also needs to be transparent enough to let the GNSS of the guidance system work, while surviving re-entry.

And yes, all solid fuel.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

considering the precision, i would think they probably can deal with graphite foam or some shit, they are no exactly precise nor do they need to be for their goals. do they do terminal guidance at all? meow-floppy *ah but they likely have to to get to 200m, nvm

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Guidance for the Fattah-1 and Kheibar Shekan series is INS (Inertial navigation using gyroscopic sensors) and satellite navigation in GNSS at all phases of flight, which also provides updates to the missiles current position to reduce compounding errors in the INS.

Accuracy from the missiles launched by Yemen is the same as those launched by Iran during Operation True Promise II, if not slightly better, mean error radius (known as circular error probable, or CEP) is probably around 400-500m now, if Iran corrected the overshoot issue during Operation True Promise II. I think the issue is that the INS system is not great, and the missiles suffer from GNSS jamming by Israel, leading to such a high CEP for a conventional weapon. The Iranian solution to this has been to mount electro optical seekers (likely infrared cameras) to their missiles for terminal guidance to improve accuracy, their longest range missile in this series is the recently released Qassem Basir, 1200-1300km range. There is no such version of the Kheibar Shekan or Fattah-1 though, so you're right, no explicit terminal guidance system, just the GNSS and INS for all phases of flight.

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[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The goal is extended economic damage against the entity, blockade and strangulation. If Yemen did that they would surely inflict damage but then be vulnerable to the response from the Zionists. This way they can keep shutting down the ports and airports indefinitely

[–] someone@hexbear.net 13 points 20 hours ago

Yemen is in an astonishingly interesting historical position. Despite limited resources and the enmity of the American Empire, they're waging incredibly successful economic warfare. If humanity survives waves hands at everything, Yemen's actions right now ought to be required military reading for a very long time.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

They build them underground and can barely import stuff or really transport internal resources without being bombed.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

I think it's because they don't have high volume production capacity and need to build their stockpile. They can probably only do a mass unloading once before they'd deplete what they have. If they lob one of two at a time, then they can keep the zionists on their toes while accruing missiles.

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

Ukraine , a land with very few problems , has Hungary currently amass its Army on his western borders now. Region of Carparthia in Ukraine is ethiniclly Hungarian and Ukraine Drafted extensivly from there . Also some days ago Ukraine security services made some raids against "Hungarian Sympathisants" there. So he can assume people there would rather be in Hungary. Some play might start there soon. or its just to try to draw some Units from the east to the west , to overextend Ukraine even more.

theres a Fun Joke about this Place that might now soon get an Addition.

spoilerSt. Peter asks a newcomer:

  • Born?
  • Austro-Hungary.
  • Went to school?
  • Czechoslovakia
  • Married in?
  • Hungary
  • Kids born in?
  • The Third Reich
  • And your grandchildren?
  • USSR.
  • Where did you die?
  • Ukraine.
  • Man, you traveled a lot!
  • Nonsense, I never left Mukachevo.
[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'd assume Ukraine despite being outmatched by Russia would inflict horrific casualties on the untested and smaller Hungarian military

In fact if the Ukrainians went wild, I could see them easily pulling a 2014 ISIS-style offensive on Poland and Central Europe and making it all the way to the outskirts of Warsaw and Budapest, a military capable of continuously holding a 1200km attritional front with the likes of Russia poses a grave danger to the poorly performing militaries of liberal Europe

I've said this before but Europe is creating a monster in Ukraine, one that is rapidly heading towards "nothing to lose" territory

This is one of the deepest contradictions liberals are expected to swallow in the war.

That NATO had no plans to attack Russia, but that somehow Ukraine was powerful enough to challenge the entirety of Russia.

They built up a monstrously powerful military full of diehard nationalists, all while pretending Ukraine is a small weak country that proves Russia is pathetically weak due to their failure to conquer Ukraine in 3 days.

Ukraine would sweep over most European nations and could easily make a challenge for control of East Europe in its 2022 state.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'd only visualize something like this occurring if the Ukrainian military still has strategic reserves to deploy to such a theoretical second front while maintaining their current defensive lines. Like I can imagine if they were to allocate the more NATO trained and orientated forces they keep on reserve and the nazi paramilitaries they may have enough manpower and armaments to push out a theoretical Hungarian incursion.

This is not even taking into account terrain difficulties between hungary and Ukraine. If hungary chose to just march over the border and take the small strip of land before the Ukrainian Carpathians and move forward their anti-air systems into the occupied strip and make mountain chokepoints, Ukraine would be hard fucking pressed to take it back.

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