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So, I've been chatting with my buddies lately, and it's turned into a bunch of debates about right and wrong. I think I have a pretty solid moral compass, I'm not bragging haha, but most people I know can't really explain why something's right or wrong without getting all circular or contradicting themselves.

So, how do you figure out what to do? No judgment, just curious. I'll share my thoughts below.

Thanks!

Edit: Oh, all you lil' philosophers have brought me a cornicopia of thoughts and ideas. I'm going to take my time responding, I'm like Treebeard, never wanna be hasty.

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[–] PunksAlwaysWin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Do no harm but take no shit.

[–] dontbelasagne@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Don't be a dick.

Number one rule I have.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Beat me to it.

Don’t be a dick, don’t make anyone’s life worse out of indifference or even temporary malice, don’t make your own life harder because of the aforementioned, and the greatest accomplishment would be to make someone else’s life measurably, permanently better and have no need of credit or compensation for the act.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

The problem with it is, everyone defines "dicky" behavior differently.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

To crush your enemies, See them driven before you, And to hear the lamentation of their women.

Conquer the things stopping you from what you want to do. This can be poverty, people, or circumstance. See those things that you have beaten lie at your feet, and revel in the outcries of the things that you now have bested.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Be kind to others and let go of attachments. Have lived a very happy and successful life by doing just those two things.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

The Parable of the Teacup

"Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.

Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring.

The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"

"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"

The Parable of the Strawberry

"A man traveling across a field encountered a tiger. He fled, the tiger after him. Coming to a precipice, he caught hold of the root of a wild vine and swung himself down over the edge. The tiger sniffed at him from above. Trembling, the man looked down to where, far below, another tiger was waiting to eat him. Only the vine sustained him.

Two mice, one white and one black, little by little started to gnaw away the vine. The man saw a luscious strawberry near him. Grasping the vine with one hand, he plucked the strawberry with the other. How sweet it tasted!"

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Try to be as unlike the cuurent US administration as possible?

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.

[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Not if youre being a cunt.

[–] theblips@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

For the last year or so I've just been trying not to kill myself

[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Try to make life better for yourself and for everyone else. Try to have compassion for everyone. You don't have to agree with them or support what they do, but treat them as having worth.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

My ethos boils down to…

  1. The Golden Rule: Your rights end where other’s rights begin, and vice versa. 
  2. Natural Rights: Any action or inaction, thought, or word, spoken or written, that does not cross the line of the Golden Rule is a natural right.
  3. Ethics: All ethics are founded upon, and entirely dependent upon, points 1 & 2.
  4. Morality Is Unethical: Morality, allowing for arbitrary precepts, is inherently unethical. 
  5. Effort: Strive to live ethically.
  6. Inaction is Action: Inaction is, itself, an action. If your inaction results (even indirectly) in someone’s natural rights being infringed, your inaction is unethical.
  7. Consideration: Actions often have cascading, indirect consequences, and you bear full responsibility for them. Therefore, failure to consider the indirect consequences of your (in)actions is also unethical.
  8. Graciousness: Treat others the way they wish to be treated. Recognize the dividends that gracious behavior has on preserving the natural rights of both yourself and others.
  9. Defend the Social Contract: Ethical behavior is a contract between individuals. Aggressors and instigators who violate that contract are not subject to its protections. As such, adherents are obliged to defend both themselves and others from such infringements to preserve the greater social stability.
  10. Imperfection: Acknowledge that no body, no thing, and no system is perfect. Not you, not others, not nature, not these precepts. Mistakes are inevitable, it is the effort and intention that matters. Accept and treasure imperfection, and be faithful to the spirit rather than the letter.
[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Stoic and Buddhist philosophy. No religious metaphysical stuff like gods, spirits or reincarnation.

On a basic level be kind and accept impermanence.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Hmm...let's put this in perspective. We live in a tiny dot flying around a cosmic sized flushing toilet bowl that is it self flying around a larger flushing toilet bowl... Both have centers that either melt everything and or stretch it til the atoms break apart...or both. We are direct descendants of life forms...not animals perhaps but life forms who appeared from random motion and electric volts and radiation in and around a primordial mix of random liquid shit. And we are the 1 second before midnight if the entire earth had been around for an entire day. In short we are nothing. Who cares if some guy wants tariffs on China while raping someone during a celebration for a new pope. However...if you lived here, your entire puny life trapped inside a calcium basket full of your own meat and guts with 8 other billion people in the same conditions, I would much rather it be a happy blip than a blip filled with and torture. And lots and lots of sex. If you're 21, my recommendation as a working professional who designs and builds really freaking cool gadgets is to go find someone to fuck pronto. And fuck. A lot. Use protection, don't have kids unless you want to. But just make love day and night. Once you turn 35 make some goals for the rest of your blip. Then spend the rest of your blip. Thru all, make your self happy and make others happy. Just help each other. It serves no one if you live the tiny puny piece of time pissed off and you piss off others.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Everyone here is saying "don't be a dick". That is not sufficient. That just makes you middling, not good. To be good, you must also stop people who ARE being dicks.

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't harm others.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Any morale principle must to be able to be universally applied to be valid. This translate in not asking for others what I won't do myself. And judging hardly those who ask for rules that don't apply to themselves.

That simple principle can construct a lot if you develop it.

[–] tty5@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
  • don't be an asshole
  • everything is allowed as long as nobody is getting hurt
  • act when you see something wrong
  • when you are able to help do so
  • in all other cases mind your own business
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 3 hours ago

everything is allowed as long as nobody is getting hurt

Context is important here. Oftentimes someone is getting hurt, you just don't know who or when. A very fine line on this bullet.

[–] WhereGrapesMayRule@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Pee when you have the chance.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pushing 4 decades, and the older I get the more I try to live by a philosophy of: be the person you wish you had when you were in their shoes.

Biggest thing is school right now: I did the college thing a bit a long time ago, struggled academically and financially, joined the military instead, separated, and now I'm back for round 2 using the GI Bill. I try to generate as many resources for my classmates as possible, run study groups, host group chats, send out reminders... The VA gives me a stipend for supplies each semester, which I'll use in it's entirety and give those supplies to the class. At clinicals (on-the-job education - nursing school) I've noticed a few students don't eat cuz weren't able to pack a lunch and hospital cafeteria food is WAY expensive for the average broke-ass college student, so I'll cover the odd meal and tell em to just pay it forward once they get their RN. Shit like that. Kinda feels like I have 50 sons and daughters lol. But I remember my first attempt at college and how overwhelming everything felt... idk if having a 'me' would have made any difference in the outcome of round 1 - can't make the horse drink and all - but if I can hook these kids up with an easier ride, then fuck yeah I'll do what I can!

I try to apply that kind of approach to pretty much any context - be it school, work, or just random encounters with people.

Feels good to be helpful.

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[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A good starting place is considering what society would look like if everyone did whatever thing.

Everyone steals - doesn't work

Everyone murders - dosen't work

ect.

Another approach is the Terry Pratchett argument that everything boils down to just not treating people like things.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Leave a better world behind than you entered (to the extent you are able to as an individual).

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

Some of my moral principles

  • Treat others how you think they would want to be treated, but not at all costs.

  • You don't have to like everyone, and not everyone has to like you. Although, being liked by others generally leads to having a better life.

  • Avoid lying or "distorting the truth". But, sometimes lying is necessary, like to keep a friend's secret.

Some of my existential thoughts

  • There are no permanent consequences other than death (I do not believe in an afterlife, although I find the concept interesting). There are no rules to follow, just temporary consequences you may have to deal with. You can make up your own rules and follow them, or not follow them.

  • Perception is just a tool used by your brain (a small part of the universe) to process the chaos that is the universe. A similar universe could be described by a very complex particle simulation. That's really cool.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have a set of values:

  • Be social
  • Seek autonomy
  • Give solidarity
  • Live in community
  • Be healthy
  • Have a clean home
  • Work is to support other values, it's not a value itself

And so on...

The choice i make is the one that aligns best with my values. If i have time to think that is. Otherwise my subconscious picks it's own weights.

There's a hierarchy to the values but they change in substance and position over time. That's by design. Humans grow and change.

Circularity and contradiction? That's fine. As long as it's aligned with my values I know I'm unlikely to regret it.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I think the basis of morality should be if it helps, it's good, if it hurts, it's bad. I realize there are still a lot of situations without easy answers but that's a good starting point. Better than it's good or bad because the rules say so.

[–] yuknowhokat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Don't be a dick. Try to stay out of the kinds of trouble that cause extra paperwork.

if there is meaning to your choices, except that which you assign to it, you cannot know it. do as you please, do what feels right or don't. accepting everything may not lead to happiness, but, other than the necessary mental faculties, it is the only requirement for contentment.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'm going to die.

That's it. There's not much I'm really certain of, but I'm pretty damn certain that I'm going to die.

So I ask myself - how do I want to live my life in light of this fact?

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Never drink alcohol alone.

That doesn’t save me from bad environment, but it prevents a Huge otherwise potential risk

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (7 children)

From an old Irish friend I've known for many years

Whatever you do in life, no matter the situation or circumstances ..... always be kind

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind."

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Be the person Captain Picard would want you to be.

[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Love me some JL. "Tea. Earl grey. Hot."

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Dont break the weekend safety brief.

  • Do not add to the population
  • Do not subtract from the population
  • Do not end up in the newspaper, hospital or jail. -- If you do end up in jail, establish dominance quickly.

Obviosuly this a a comedic response but it covers most of the bases.

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