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Hello world,

as many of you probably already know, Lemmy is an open source project and its development is funded by donations.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, donations amounts are often going down over time if people are not aware of their necessity. When older users leave the platform they may stop donating, while new users joining will typically not be aware of this and won't start donating to even things out or even go towards an overall increase in donations.

All of the services provided by our non-profit Fedihosting Foundation are dependent on the development of FOSS platforms, which we can host without paying any licensing or other fees, instead only being required to pay for the infrastructure cost. We are currently investing a small part (โ‚ฌ50 each) of the donations we receive in development of Lemmy and Mastodon, but the majority of the donations we receive are used for covering infrastructure costs. We're currently just about breaking even with the donations we receive, but it's certainly not enough to cover a large part of Lemmy or other software development costs.

We're looking to support sustainable software development for all the services we provide and will post similar announcements on our other platforms to promote donations towards the respective development teams in the coming days.

You can find the original announcement by @nutomic@lemmy.ml below:

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005

An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000โ‚ฌ per month. This leaves only 1000โ‚ฌ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

Liberapay | Ko-fi | Patreon | OpenCollective | Crypto

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000โ‚ฌ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500โ‚ฌ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

Donate


edit, as this was frequently brought up:

Will donations to Lemmy development go towards the operation of lemmy.ml?

It depends on the donation method used and is limited to around 2% of the minimum overall donation goal. The vast majority of donations is exclusively used for developer salaries.

lemmy.ml hosting is only financed by donations via Opencollective. All other donations go exclusively to developer salaries.

[source]

For donations via Open Collective, yes, a tiny fraction of donations towards Lemmy development will go towards the operation of lemmy.ml. The reasons for this include that lemmy.ml is used for testing new releases and also that it's not worth maintaining a separate donation account for the instance. Additionally, it should be noted that the money going towards lemmy.ml hosting is just a tiny fraction of the funds that are being asked for. Hosting lemmy.ml costs around โ‚ฌ100/month, which is only 2% of the stated minimum donation goal.

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[โ€“] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Am I wrong or is the same person making fun of the ridiculous censorship rules on Reddit while enforcing similar ridiculous censorship rules on their own .ml instance?

[โ€“] bassomitron@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Yeah, .ml is usually a giant circle jerk and often removes comments/posts that are critical of things like the CCP.

[โ€“] davidagain@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I got banned on ml for arguing that it was obvious that trump was worse than the Democrats

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[โ€“] Fizz@lemmy.nz 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes but that also highlights the advantage of Lemmy. Its not censorship for Lemmy.ml to enforce its rules because users can post on another instance where Lemmy.ml admins have no power. On reddit thats not an option.

Its a good thing that we have instances that curate their own communities.

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[โ€“] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No ads and no algorithm isn't free.

Folks, open your wallets and throw a few bucks Lemmy's way. I'm a monthly donor myself, and I consider it money well-spent compared to the shit show that is every other social media platform.

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[โ€“] asymmetric@slrpnk.net 45 points 1 week ago

Done. Lemmy is too good not to get properly funded.

[โ€“] socsa@piefed.social 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fuck the lemmy.ml devs. I'm not going to donate to a group of people who have clearly targeted me over and over again across multiple accounts with petty bans for gently questioning their authoritarian orthodoxy.

Donate to forks like piefed or mbin. Let .ml reap what it sows.

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[โ€“] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

For those with decision paralysis, Liberapay is a great choice. They're a France-based non-profit which is itself run off of donations which it crowdfunds on its own platforn (pretty based tbh), and the site itself is FOSS.

Of some note unfortunately is that donations for development also go to the maintainer-run instance .ml โ€“ whose tankie position is to expressly deny genocides like the Holodomor and the ongoing genocide of the Uyghurs by China โ€“ but the costs of development versus the costs of just running the server are completely disproportionate in favor of development. With that in mind, being ideologically purist here enables much greater evils, and I think Lemmy has easily given me more than this value: donated $20 (edit: upped to $30 for drama reasons).

$30 Liberapay receipt toward Lemmy showing $1.28 in processing fees

[โ€“] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (22 children)

How does one AVOID funding .ml?

[โ€“] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Addressed this in an edited-in second paragraph. Answer is "unfortunately, you can't" unless you wish to fork Lemmy. But as someone who's sickened to my core by tankie ideas, I still think funding this piece of FOSS is by far the lesser evil, I think I make a compelling argument for it, and I do think the Lemmy team do good work on the software side.

If I can hold my nose and vote for the lesser evil, I need to follow that same principle when it's not just my vote I'm casting but where I'm putting my time and money.

Edit: I completely forgot that you could, in theory, try helping out on their GitHub if you have a background in CS. It won't pay for the developers' cost of living, but it could reduce the maintenance burden if you know what you're doing.

[โ€“] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

As far as I know their politics and views have had zero impact on the code.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Almost true, being Communists has certainly influenced the reasons for Lemmy as a federated, anticapitalist alternative to Reddit to begin with.

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[โ€“] orangeboats@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (13 children)

ITT: a mighty showcase of the divide-and-conquer strategy by psyops.

Instead of realizing that our goal as an alternative community to Reddit is first and foremost to... well duh, to build a community and keep it thriving, people here are infighting, preferring to subdivide themselves into tankies and non-tankies.

If Lemmy eventually fails and no other project with a similar feature-set can show up in time, we end up killing the existing momentum.

If that happens, all of you shall remember this very moment, and bravo to the psyops people (be it from the government or corporate) because you won yet again.

Donated. Though because I am living in a third world country it's just a measly ~25 dollars.

[โ€“] Eheran@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Not getting mixed up with tankies or fascist is a pretty important thing. I would rather not have such "social" media instead.

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[โ€“] Ledivin@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (23 children)

I would never donate so long as that donation supports lemmy.ml

Based on the general community sentiment I've seen and your reports of barely breaking even here, you can either break from the tankies or watch lemmy die without enough funds.

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[โ€“] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Give up your admin/mod roles on .ml, be neutral developers, then I am happy to donate.

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[โ€“] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Donated, I'd rather be on a foss platform that can defederate/block bad faith interlocutors than a corpo platform that forces their anti user pro monetization shit on everyone who uses their platform.

[โ€“] forensic_potato@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

More than happy to monetarily support this amazing open source project with monthly contributions! Thank you to all the devs involved in running this platform

[โ€“] Imhotep@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (34 children)

I just logged into Liberapay, and then I saw their profile pictures. Remembered I can't donate to tankies (inb4: I didn't say communists) any more I could maga supporters. or IDF apologists

lemmy.ml:

Hey but they're not that bad! Nutomic responded in this thread:

I certainly dont praise or support civilians being displaced from their homes.

Isn't it wonderfully vague? ~~You know who expressed the same sadness about displaced people? guess~~ (I can't find a source/misremembered? my bad)

You can remove all ambiguity by saying who is the unequivocal aggressor responsible for the gruesome death of thousands of young men and civilians in Ukraine.

How's the denazification going, guys?

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[โ€“] farcaster@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Not while the devs run a pro-genocide echo chamber. Tankie punks fuck off.

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[โ€“] trolololol@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've made my donation today for the first time.

I find it helpful that we have been keeping people full time, funded by donations. I would hope this model grows, expanding into for example specific features getting their own bucket of money, as we can voice our support for things that can get lost in a backlog.

I'm not sure I've seen how to contribute the old way, by donating time and performing tasks. Not my case, but how would someone get started on that?

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[โ€“] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I fkn love this community! Just set up yearly dono for 60

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