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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

This is just poorly thought out. You offer dessert and to pay, then classify it as food motivation. I mean it could be that he's happy you're paying, or happy you want to be out longer. If anything, he just ate, so food motivation would be at its lowest.

You're taking an animal that isn't as complex as humans or even has a concept of society, and trying to apply that to a person in a relationship. I think the thought is there, but the conclusions are a bit flawed.

[–] Redfox8@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're only more complex in that we have language systems so can assess situations in a more detailed way. The majority of the time we have pretty much the same instincts and responses to stimuli to many other animals because, in short, it takes less energy/effort. Being able to conceive society, something canines can do, doesn't stop other natural instincts. There is a level of simplification, yes, but this is a social media post, not a scientific study so it won’t explain every minute detail!

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We’re only more complex in that we have language systems so can assess situations in a more detailed way.

In part yes. But we also have a society. We have concepts of social norms that we created and evolved. We have expectations developed through a lifetime of education and media. A human from 50 years ago would feel lost in today's world, let alone a dog. We may be driven by some same basics, but we are more complex.

My point is that we can't talk to dogs like we can to humans. So we learn signs and try to interpret them as best we can. But interpretations are just that - interpretations. They can be wrong. A better method would be to talk and discuss the issue, removing the need for any guesswork.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Someone wouldn't like watching House M.D. if this is making them feel immoral.

House Trains His Protégé | House M.D..

(if you don't want to see the whole thing here's s timestamp for the more relevant portion)

That's just basic psychology more or less. These are just the thoughts you shouldn't say ouloud perhaps. You can often compare things because there's similarities, but the nature of the things being compared may make it offensive.

It's more like "training dogs has given me an understanding of basic psychology which came really handy in my relationships" than "I'm training my bf like a dog".

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

When logic doesn't work, appeal to the lizard brain ... often. We're kinda not that complex.

I totally respect this, but worry egoes (his) will get in the way during a lull in the snacks.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Weak. Submissives, come to me and I will treat you as lesser than a dog. You may not be useless, but you are worthless 😎

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

I will throw you like Donkey Kong throws a barrel.

[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The NYT had an article from 2006 which described a very similar "training". It goes into greater detail. Here is an archived version without paywall: https://archive.ph/n4GPa

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

The book is good as well

[–] PopcornPrincess@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Isn’t this just reinforcement, like reinforcement vs punishment from behavioral psychology? It works.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

I don't see a problem here.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Many people apparently loving this, I see it as a red flag. She's manipulative and I'd second guess every action she'd take from the day I noticed it

Edit: funny that people are down voting this, I guess they want to be manipulated by their partners.

Take it from someone who divorced a manipulative partner, it's not cool them all the time lying pushing and manipulating you to be the way they want you to be.

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[–] tipicaldik@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

62yo male here thinks she's a damn genius... maybe she should like, make some of those tiktoks or something...

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a 62 year old, you should not encourage awful things...like going on TikTok

[–] tipicaldik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

true, but how else are all those other women gonna learn her wise ways if she doesn't? american women anyways...

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

The problem is not the actions. The problem is your mentality. If you're trying to train a human being, that sounds pretty f****** terrible. On the other hand, if you're trying to support for and care for them, it doesn't sound terrible.

Based on the wording, it sounds like the former, but perhaps you're just trying to make your post dramatic for the internet and the actual situation is more like the latter. We don't know, but you do, so act accordingly.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah I think that's pretty gross. This person stated that the person they are dating is emotionally unavailable and has potentially been abused as a child. But because they find them pretty, they decided to manipulate a person like they manipulate animals for selfish purposes. (Both are bad!) Their partner probably needs therapy not to be emotionally manipulated by their partner.

[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am asking this more out of curiosity than criticism, but how would you deal with someone who is emotionally unavailable, shows signs of childhood abuse, but treats you pretty fairly?

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[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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