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Apple users bash new iPhone 15: ‘Innovation died with Steve Jobs’::Smart phone fans are griping about Apple's new devices since the arguably anti-climactic announcement of the forthcoming iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus on Tuesday.

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[–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don’t know what people are expecting anymore, phones are a mature market. Short of something like foldables (which don’t seem to be catching on) they’re going to be iterative updates. Look at TVs and computers. Years of big advancements and then they’re iterative.

Also the NY Post is an absolutely terrible publication to link to.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Foldables are catching on, they're growing absurdly fast.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Exactly, they grow like 200% in the second it takes to unfold them

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[–] Kaffemannen@feddit.nu 6 points 1 year ago

(almost) fully agree. However, I think people are just waiting for the next "game changer" since it's been quite long since the "smartphone" was launched... and as you say, foldables obviolsy didn't fill that desire. Computers, on the other hand, has seen some quite big improvements lately. Mainly with small, energy efficient chips (like the m1, m2...) so there is hope for a not so stagnant market with only marginal gains.

[–] Meganium97@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I mean I'd agree but apple consistently jacks up the prices with every "new" release. I'm going to assume that the 15 is literally just the 14 with usb c.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only hear: „mimimi, apple does not give me any reason to buy a new phone every year.“ just use your phone 5 years and try a new one then you will feel the difference. Source: I own a iPhone X and my girlfriend owns a iPhone 12 pro

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

It's better for the environment anyway. Regardless of manufacturer. There's also almost no need to get a new device every year. Marginal hardware upgrades mean very little to average consumer, it's just a numbers race and most people don't really take their devices to the edge of performance.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Steve Jobs didn't innovate a thing in his life. Apple has always been stealing tech and pretending that they created it.

Now with this new version, they don't even have much anything to steal. At best, they pretended that the EU didn't force them to adopt USB 3 and boast how much faster it is than Lightning port.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually the EU only forced them to adopt USB C. Only their 'Pro' model actually has USB 3. Imagine having to pay a premium for the luxury of a 15 year old technology

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Apple just wants to get rid of low income people having an iphone.

Iphones whole thing has always been to be a luxury brand, that only rich people can afford.

[–] Xia@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah because the first iPhone wasn’t a Revolution,

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[–] Johanno@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Their Laptop Chips are in fact leading technology. Intel and AMD are far behind in Performance/Power used

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[–] 0Xero0@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You don't buy Apple products for the technology or innovations anymore, now you buy Apple products for the bragging rights of being able to pay premium prices for things everyone else has been using for a decade that have a lot more features for a fraction of the price.

[–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This is a take I would expect to see on Reddit, it’s simply not true. None of those devices run iOS either which is what a lot of people prefer. It’s okay to dislike something, you don’t need to insult the people that do.

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[–] mplewis@lemmy.globe.pub 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Premium Android phones are just as expensive as iPhones and come with worse software quality and shorter support periods.

[–] nostradiel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$Maybe in the us but elsewhere the apple prices are nuts. I bought new s23 for 800$. There is no fucking way I'd pay 1200$ for much worse iphone.

[–] mplewis@lemmy.globe.pub 3 points 1 year ago

Agreed, the prices for Android are much better when non-US tariffs are involved.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except you can buy a pixel A series which will work just as well as the most expensive iPhone just slightly slower. I'm at about 3.5 years on a $350 pixel and still it's the best phone I've owned. Yes I know you can buy cheaper iPhones too but aren't they phasing that out? Like you now normally would have to buy a 1-2 year old model to get a price similar to that. My pixel was brand new and 4-5 months past release I think

The bugs on the PIxel 6 (returned after 2 weeks) and now with Android 12 on a Oneplus phone have me seriously thinking of buying an Iphone next time. Despite the fact I'd rather stay with Android, I'd make the switch and pay $300 more every three years for a phone that is relatively trouble free with decent support.

[–] dlok@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

With 5 years of support too

[–] DzikiMarian@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Base iPhone is midrange device, not a flagship.

[–] Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ngl they kinda are right. The last time I saw a feature that made me consider them was maybe like 4-6 years ago. I still bloody love Ipods tho.

[–] protput@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you forget about the groundbreaking feature of the removal of the audio jack?

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] fabio1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And the SIM card tray

Honestly fuck Apple for that and starting that fucking stupid ass trend.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s probably true for most phones. There’s only so much you can do with the black obelisk they’ve all become and now we’re just quibbling over what external connections they have. I mean you could tweak the camera, put in a better battery, better processor…but the obelisk phone is done as far as what can be “innovated”.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I just want a 3d holoprojector on my phone, is that so much to ask?

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Eh. I mean, are there any great innovations left when it comes to smartphones? They kinda all just look and do the same nowadays.

They sure made USB3 look like a breakthrough innovation, though...

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

are there any great innovations left

Honestly, this is such a weird take because, yes. Of course there are innovations left, you just cannot think of them yourself now because then they obviously would not be innovative but rather same old same old. Now the rate of new innovations probably did slow down a lot, I agree with that, so its harder to find something that is innovative in this space.

[–] Skkorm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Apple fans are delusional, the iPhone has always don't tiny ass incremental changes. This is par for the course.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Apple has n't made anything impressive and quite a long time

[–] Four_lights77@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The iPhone is their cash cow. They need it to bring stable and sizeable income to fund things like vr goggles. I’m not saying the haters are wrong, just that their expectations for what Apple will innovate on the iPhone might be a little misplaced.

[–] fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

No matter what the subject, the NY Post is not even good for toilet paper.

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