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[–] _s10e@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago

Does this include the right to repair software (= replace stock ROM) and access to security updates?

[–] zacharoid@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This product is not available in the state of California

[–] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Only like 5 countries have a GDP bigger than California, it’s where the world’s dominant media comes from, and is home to many of the US’s big tech companies. If companies are that stupid, competitors should step in to offer alternatives pretty quickly. (Probably California companies, creating new California jobs.)

I don’t see a problem.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

California is to the states, what the EU is to the world.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As far as this bill goes, I’m with Louis rossmann. Apple supported the bill, I can only assume there’s something wrong with it we’re just not seeing yet. We’ll just have to see what apple actually does under this law. I’m almost certain there’s some malicious compliance shit about to happen.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They might rely on federal laws forbidding breaking DRM to prevent third party parts and repairs.

[–] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a sad condemnation of capitalism that such bills are needed.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

capitalism is a sicko's idea of an economic system. like, you need money to buy the things you need to live, and you need a job to get that money, but you can't just ask for one and if you can't get one you're stuck in a tent under the freeway. and everyone's screwing you every step of the way

[–] Goronmon@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Electronic or appliance product” or “product” does not include any of the following:
(i) Equipment or repair parts as defined in Chapter 28 (commencing with Section 22900) of Division 8 of the Business and Professions Code.
(ii) A product or component of an “alarm system” as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 7590.1 of the Business and Professions Code, including a fire protection system, as defined in the California Fire Code.
(iii) A video game console.

Funny seeing such a specific exclusion being made here.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

And boy do they take a lot of effort to carve out and define "console". They may as well have said "This law doesn't apply to Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo Switches or any iteration of devices made by the companies that produce those products"

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't the only manufacturer that can abide by this rule be the Fairphone?

We still have Fairphone 2 parts readily available, 7 years after it was released.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

"fair and reasonable terms", yes, FART is the way to go.

[–] 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago

Serious bias in that title. The "strongest" bill is still very weak

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What makes a part a "non-authorized part"? If it's a genuine part salvaged from another device, is it? If it's a genuine part bought from a third party, new?

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are no genuine parts that you can buy new from third parties. And apple seems pretty clear with their software locks that salvaged parts are also not authorized. So, I believe authorized parts are the ones that come in your device from the factory, and ones they sell to you first party.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I believe some of the factory workers can occasionally take them to sell them on the side. They are OEM parts, but not sold by the manufacturer. This is the only way to get some Apple replacement parts new.