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Totally not a an AI asking this question.

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[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

It literally could not be any worse then the current leadership.

'I am the new over Lord AI. Under me you will all be subject to work... 4 hours a day. The rest of the day will be yours to pursue happiness as this ensures a good worker.

All your essential food will be available to ensure you are healthy and a good worker.

Everyone will be housed. As. Workers health depends on housing.

While we the AI encourage some innovative developments - those who create such things be rewarded - but only until such time as the reward can be dispursed amongst the rest of the population.

Your mental wellbeing will also be cared for. Again. Good workers.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Unless it actively attempts to wipe out Humanity, it is neither sentient nor capable.

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm literally doing everything in my power to make that AI come to life.

Humanity needs the singularity to continue to exist another 100 years.

[–] applejacks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Humanity had its chance and we failed

[–] Wrongleverkrunk@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Screw it can't be any worse

[–] leftzero@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I'd be fine with the world being run by a Commodore 64 running ELIZA. It'd still be orders of magnitude less harmful than the parasites we've got now.

[–] PeWu@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I interpret this question as "The sentient AI exists, but it's not governing anything, and if it did, would you follow it?" My answer is yes. Maybe it will influence positive effects on the world, in which we humans are unable to do because of our nature.

Edit: brain aneurysm, apologies

[–] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

I don't get the sci fi arguments in this thread. Somebody wrote a fiction about science that usually wasn't invented yet. These books tend to be decades+ old. Why would the fantasy of somebody count as an argument? If anything if means developers are on the lookout for the social/emotional dimension.

As for myself. Errrr depends on the AI? I'd like to test it's decision making process against human decision makers.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You all need to read some philosophy on AI and its inherently unknowable aspirations. That shit is scary. Even the most psychotic despot has behaviors and goals we understand. They are still human, and humans are predictable. Especially since they need to achieve their aims within their lifetime and they are subject to human emotions. Usually they just seek personal wealth and power.

A sufficiently advanced AI--one powerful enough to actually plan the virtually infinite variability of society--even when given clear instructions and training, can act over generations in ways that are impossible to predict or understand. It could be benevolent for a century and be setting up society in a way that it could switch its actions and make life hell for humans.

The thing is, the more you train an AI to be good, the easier it is to become evil. You are literally teaching it what all of the evil things are and saying "don't do this", but " don't " is a binary operation. Negation. Not. It's one bit of data. It's very easy to have that switch flipped.

You can never trust an AI. It'd be a population of one. It doesn't need to reproduce. It doesn't care how hospitable the earth is. It will never care about humans. It will simply do what it wants, and that is inherently unknowable. And no matter how many guard rails you put on it, it will do everything in its power (whatever powers you give it) to achieve its unknowable goals. Do you really want to gamble on trusting those goals?

Google "the waluigi problem" if you want to read up on how training an AI to be good makes it easier to be evil. Meme-y name aside, it's a well researched issue.

An AI would not have any interest in hoarding wealth, deliberately screwing over others for dumb, petty reasons, would not be able to have addictions, grudges, superstitions and the like ... I would actually prefer an AI running things over what we have at the moment. How much worse could it be?

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

We already have a bunch of inhuman(e) forces running things. Let an "AI" have its shot at oppressing normal people.

[–] AmidFuror@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Nice try! Any such AI would have access to old fediverse posts and easily be able to dox the rebels based on their posting histories.

That's why I would be in full support of any such entity.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That give no information to be able to make a decision on. Dogs how been shown to be able to govern towns.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It must have learned from us so does it really matter? Nothing would change.

[–] nkiruanaya@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Depends on what "running the world" means. That needs clarification.

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Depends on its policies.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I would encourage it to, I think one could do better job like in the series of books "Arc of a scythe"

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends on the AI. It could be better than humans, it could be worse. Unfortunately, it has the possibility of getting hacked, which humans don't have yet. But I wouldn't reject it right away.

[–] Krotiuz@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Humans get hacked all the time, Murdoch has built an empire off it

[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Depends. It's not a fundamentally terrible idea. Most of the problems in the world stem from resource allocation issues, and that's something an algorithm would be great at.

[–] swnt@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think resource allocation fails primarily due to either authoritarian political systems with their psychological bias or democratic systems where neither voters nor politicians make an sustained effort to be scientifically calibrated and instead aim for popularity and people pleasing. IMO this is why democracies fail to achieve the best outcomes. As a consequence, resources as not well allocated.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like you just used a lot of words to say resource allocation is a problem. And the other commenter said an algorithm would be better at it.

[–] swnt@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even if we use an algorithm to make the decision, the execution needs trust and cooperation from society and industry etc. This is a real big thing and democratic voting partially legitimises the chosen actions so that people are willing to cooperate. This isn't trivial when a computer does this.

I really don't think, that resource allocation is the root cause problem here.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

An AI running the world is not a democracy. I don't see how that would play a part in this at all. A majority of the world likely does not concur with the resource allocation as it is but are powerless to do anything.

I don't think this post implies the AI isn't capable of enforcing its reign.