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I admit it, I still browse Doctor Who reddit โ€” using safer frontends, mind โ€” but mostly there is no great reason to crosspost here. People going nuts over leaks or revisiting their distinct lack of enjoyment of one series or another.

This I couldn't resist reposting, though. Somebody made a rather involved defense of the show adapting to the times, including this curiosity:

During 2nd's run, and perhaps also in Hartnell's, I noticed something interesting. Rarely they'd use a sort of opera singing common in "space operas" of the day - a nod to the audience that understood this genre convention meant that they'd be watching high drama, now an obsolete thematic device.

That's... not what is meant by "space opera" at all. Try looking up "soap opera" instead ๐Ÿ˜‚

I'm 85% sure this is a GPT output, with margin for it being some clueless kid instead. There are a couple other tells in the wall of text, but this was pure hallucination.

Funny thing is, nobody calls OP out for this in the comments, which proves that anything past the title is fluff.

Generally speaking, though, I agree with the poster's sentiments, if not their grasp of facts ๐Ÿ™‚

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[โ€“] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The only space opera I've ever seen is that scene in The Fifth Element where they go to an opera... In space.

[โ€“] Kirk@startrek.website 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for teaching me about RedLib. I thought the libReddit project was done with the API changes.

[โ€“] haverholm@kbin.earth 3 points 3 days ago

You're welcome ๐Ÿ™‚ I use the LibRedirect plugin on Firefox, and that keeps me updated on available frontends. I don't have the bandwidth to stay current otherwise ๐Ÿ˜„

[โ€“] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That is one of many Reddit communities that I just couldn't get into.

Semantics aside, I can't see how the RTD2 era is any different from the RTD1 era, other than them having more money to throw around.

It seems like a lot of people need to consider whether it's the show or themselves that has changed.

[โ€“] haverholm@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ironically, r/gallifrey is the milder version, but obviously not free of hyperbole.

It seems like a lot of people need to consider whether it's the show or themselves that has changed.

Exactly. "It's a disgrace that this show doesn't cater to me, a middle-aged person, the way it did when I was a teenager, it has clearly peaked and should be ended" on a non-ironic feedback loop.

[โ€“] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It comes up all the time in the wider Trek community, too - nothing will ever be as good as whatever was on TV when you were 14.

[โ€“] haverholm@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago

TBF, in my case that would coincide with the first season of Twin peaks, and that's a highwater mark I can get behind.

[โ€“] haverholm@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago

Racking my brain for Hartnell/Troughton period episodes that involve singing of any kind only bring up "The gunfighters". I guess that would be horse opera, then?

Still nothing to do with opera singing though ๐Ÿ˜‚

Edit: "Gunfighters", not "gunslingers".