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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I love how I'm just suppose to trust the official texts on China and Cuba, but not the US. That's what these "do your own homework" posts always imply.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In communism, you can vote so long as you vote for pre-approved candidates.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, our system isn't that much better with the fuckery in the political parties. Primary elections that set who is eligible to be elected at the national level. But that's just garden variety authoritarianism for you.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well I think you are wrong on a deep fundamental level.

The difference is staggering.

In democracy, you can chose to boot someone out, that's not an option un dictatorships and it bakes all the difference in the world.

[–] Forester@pawb.social -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You really should look up the difference between a democracy and a republic

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why? I was discussing the difference between democracy and dictatorship.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Because the United States is not a democracy, it's a constitutional republic. A constitutional republic that is sliding into authoritarianism and towards dictatorship.

If you would like to see an example of democracy, you should look up ancient Athens.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As worrisome as the trump presidency is, the USA is still a democracy. Also, a republic can be democratic and also Athens democracy was the first but largely not what we call a democracy today.

[–] Forester@pawb.social -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I find it interesting that to you the definitions have changed and what I was taught in school 20 years ago is no longer accurate.

Words have meanings. In a democracy your vote is direct. In a republic your vote is not direct but you are passing your power onto representatives who will wield and control your power on your behalf.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The term is 'representative democracy'.

A 'republic' is any formal state that isn't a monarchy.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So China is a democracy where virtually everyone just happens to vote for the incumbent?

[–] Sprawl@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

We prolly gonna have to get the guy to define democracy first. It likely ain’t what we think he thinks it is.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago

not going to go full tankie and praises those democracies, but without a doubt, the US democracy is a farce.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Serious question, what truly successful, stable and properly representative democracies are there?

Like, even if we remove the major issues around capitalism, the US democracy is as far from representing the people as democratically possible. Heck, even if you remove the electoral college it would still be a super unrepresentative democracy because of the two party system and other factors.

So what countries are out there that have functional democracies that truly represent the will of the people while being stable?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Serious question, what truly successful, stable and properly representative democracies are there?

Most of the EU. Aussieland and New Zealand. Canada. Taiwan. Mongolia. Mexico and Brazil, if you'll allow a little wiggle room in 'stable'. Possibly SK and Japan, depending on your definitions of 'properly representative'.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Not a definition of democracy, but if a country has Universal Healthcare. That’s a start. Healthcare in Canada needs help, but at least I know I’m not going to lose my home and life’s savings because of health. PP and Danielle Smith’s wet dream is to privatize health care.

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