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In an unforeseen turn of events, Twitter has decided to test user patience by cloistering tweets behind a sign-in wall

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[–] ForcedCreator@kbin.social 93 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Twitter was one of the few socials where government agencies could publish to the masses. Everyday Twitter erodes its worth for short-term wealth.

[–] ficwats@kbin.social 63 points 2 years ago (4 children)

In hindsight, it seems absurd that we collectively trust a for-profit company to disseminate official information. Governments should probably take this opportunity to spin up their own Mastodon instances and migrate away from Twitter.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Germany of all countries has dippped into it: https://social.bund.de/

Not quite sure how this works without fax machines, but it does.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 50 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Judging by the number of German posts I see on here as well, it seems Germany is very receptive to the idea of the fediverse.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

When we think back on how the Google Street View coverage looks in the EU when the majority of Germans objected to getting their houses filmed, there just might be a certain attitude against big tech companies.

https://i.imgur.com/yYbxQi5.jpg

[–] fedosyndicate@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

Well, Germany is officially a Federal Republic, it does make some sense they would join a federated universe :)

[–] thehatfox@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I’ve noticed a lot of German language fediverse content too. Does anyone know why German speakers are so keen on the fediverse?

[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

German speaking Swiss here. Absolutely no idea.

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[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

It's HRE all over again

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[–] donuts@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm with you 100%. The same thing could be said about reputable news organizations. And really, there's no better "verification" than people and agencies having their accounts on servers tied to domains that they own.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The European Commission is on Mastodon and are seeing how it goes there. They post fairly routinely.

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[–] nameless_prole@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Everyday Twitter erodes its worth for short-term wealth.

This is, and will always be, the main push of capitalism. This isn't some cute new term like "enshittification" or something, this is just good ol fashion rent seeking and it's capitalism working as intended.

[–] MisterMoo@kbin.social 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

“Oh no, I can’t read anything on Twitter!”

-No one with good mental health.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In areas experiencing ongoing conflict where maintream media is either muzzled/ unable to keep up, twitter is used by people & journalists to provide updates. In countries with dictatorial governments where the mainstream media cannot be trusted , twitter (&other SM) are used to organize protests and discussions.

[–] Pseu@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In countries with dictatorial governments where the mainstream media cannot be trusted , twitter (&other SM) are used to organize protests and discussions.

It was good for this, but it is not anymore

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[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

Hey, there is some good art on Twitter. It's not all politics and Wendy

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[–] eu8@kbin.social 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Musk claimed that it's temporary. Either way this is an absolute disaster. This must be costing them insane amounts of money.

[–] Jarmer@kbin.social 41 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"we were getting data pillaged" ... LOL I wonder what on earth that means in his feeble mind.

[–] eliz@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

Just some deranged rich snob who thinks UGC is .. his? Kinda sad if you think about it. People posted on Twitter with the expectation of it being public, not some man's sandbox.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

That whole tweet reads like a screenwriter shit it out to fill some tech mumbojumbo plot point for a police procedural.

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[–] lozunn@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"Temporary" in corpo-speak means permanent if it generates profit and there-were-some-technical-issues if it doesn't, so this is just Felon Muskrat testing the waters.

[–] nameless_prole@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Right, they will do a cost/benefit analysis to see if the amount of traffic and engagement that they lost cost more or less than what they made or saved by forcing log in.

[–] Stern@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because that works so well for Pinterest right? I mean, we all have Pinterest accounts so we can access all that content on Pinterest don't we?

Oh... we don't? People add -site:pinterest.com to their google searches to avoid the site entirely? Well then... dang.

[–] AppleMango@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personally, I don't get many search results from Pinterest

[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

Or not anymore, anyway. Google's algorithm seems to have come to the conclusion that pinterest isn't worth linking as much anymore.

[–] Pseu@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Twitter is going even harder than Pinterest. They're not even showing a preview of the content, they're just immediately redirecting users to a login page before seeing anything at all.

[–] Elevator7008@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is a much more extreme version of the same reason I never used Quora. I'd be allowed on one page, but after that, clicking on any internal link in the site would push a "create an account" dialogue and wouldn't let me click off to see the content. The way around that was just reloading the page, but the irritation and tiny extra step was enough to stop me from browsing that site. Just checked right now and Quora doesn't do this on PC, but it does on my phone.

Now Twitter won't let you on the site at all without logging in.

[–] nameless_prole@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also... Quora just seems fucking wild

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[–] OneMoreB@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago

LinusTechTips just had an issue with this on WAN show tonight where Luke was trying to show a video on Twitter but he wasn't signed in on his stream laptop and Linus was remote so he couldn't share his screen.

Luckily the creator of the video they wanted to show had also posted it to YouTube so they were able to show it anyway, but it still disrupted the flow of the show and led them to not be able to use the platform as a news source.

[–] scarcer@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] djquadratic@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

saw this too! looks like it broke a ton of tweet embeds too... Muskrat says its to mitigate scrapers but--this feels heavy handed

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (6 children)

What damage do web scrapers actually cause Twitter? I don't understand Elon's logic in this move.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Extra traffic that their infrastructure can't handle since he fired all the people that knew how.

Like reddit, he also probably sees it as losing millions of dollars for data he wants to be paid for.

So losing money from degraded services and losing potential money from data being taken.

What's worth more - the loss of ad revenue from walled login, or the loss of potential revenue selling the data

[–] trynn@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

Your first mistake is assuming that Elon Musk uses any kind of logic.

[–] eu8@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

There's no way they cause more damage than what they have done now. The vast majority of users (and eyes on ads, etc) are not going to have accounts. The majority of accounts that might pay money only do so because lots of people (who may not be logged in) see them.

[–] Niello@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

You have to assume flawed logic if you want to understand him.

[–] orcrist@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Elon doesn't understand how to use robots.txt.

[–] Mateng@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

To be fair, many bots don't know how to use it either.

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[–] Kraiden@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

I mean they have to protect all that content that they've been given for free, right?

  • spez probably
[–] 51@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Guess I’m not going to Twitter anymore

[–] DPS_Not_Included@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Same I rarely went there to check specific people's posts. I have not made a twitter yet and certainly not going to make one now.

[–] SystemThreat@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

Good! This is a true death knell.

Good. Finally that one friend of mine will stop posting Twitter links and I can blacklist it again.

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Good, faster Twitter dies, the better.

[–] Vincent-Van-Vega@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Holy shit, I thought it was just a bug on my end. Sometimes I wonder: what has ELON been smoking?

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] nameless_prole@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

You don't smoke ketamine. And it definitely would not be responsible for the type of behavior he exhibits.

That's just called "extreme avarice," and "sociopathy."

[–] fedosyndicate@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Well, I guess we know he's been doing some weed already. ;)

[–] Firefox@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

It’s starting to feel like LinkedIn. Can’t view a page without the person getting notified you looked.

[–] nimbool@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Does this make it impossible to read posts from accounts that have blocked you in incognito mode?

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