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    [–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

    Do you know how many grey beards have waited their entire lives to have a girl ask them what Linux is. You've made a lot of irc mods jealous tonight. Stack overflow responses are going to get super spicy for a couple days

    [–] amda 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It is normal your friend doesn't understand what you are talking about since what you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

    [–] cacheson@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

    I appreciated this pasta, even if no one else did

    [–] transigence@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

    Thank you for making this distinction. I've never heard this before. Especially not thousands of times by the most socially well-adjusted people on the planet.

    [–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's not a religion it's just some damned software

    [–] heimchen@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

    Its not something that effect's your every day live its just a book

    [–] cacheson@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

    Y'all are very serious for a meme community

    [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Everytime I scroll past something from this community my eyes bleed. Y’all wanna fuck windows users so bad

    [–] raubarno@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    FYI, the creator of an original Arch-chan is RavioliMavioli: https://raviolimavioli.github.io/ . The pic above seems to be a derivative work.

    [–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 2 years ago

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    [–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I'm currently on some pirated LTSC Windows 10 but I'll probably move back to Linux next. It just bothers me how much more effort simple tasks take on Linux, and how a lot of the options emulate the inferior Mac look. Whenever I see the red yellow green buttons on a window it makes me gag thinking about all the money that terrible company has scammed people for.

    [–] DreitonLullaby@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Why worry about the fact that there's lots of options that emulate the Mac look, when there are many options that don't? My favourite Desktop Environment currently is KDE Plasma, which I use on Manjaro. It's more like the Windows design but in my opinion way better, and of course ridiculously customisable (which is what KDE Plasma is known for, especially compared to Windows 10/11). Also the exit, minimize, and maximize buttons I for some reason absolutely love so much better than anything else I've seen (no, they look nothing like Mac). My other favourites are Budgie, Cinnamon, and Mate which are all great options. Budgie's great for the minimalistic design while still looking very modern and clean. And besides, which DE's are you talking about when you say they are emulating Mac? Most, if not all of them allow you change the "Red, Yellow, Green" buttons to the more traditional Windows look, and move them to the right side of the Window from the left.

    [–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Well that's nice but I was just voicing my personal gripes with the Mac interfaces which are on some of the mainstream Linux versions. I didn't say they were all bad, it just takes me personally more time to pick the correct ones. I'd hate to select an ultra specific customized version that gets abandoned by the maintainers in a year or two, I generally run machines for about 8 years.

    [–] DreitonLullaby@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I’d hate to select an ultra specific customized version that gets abandoned by the maintainers in a year or two, I generally run machines for about 8 years.

    TLDR (Apologies for the crazy long comment): Basically, I say that if you want peace of mind the project isn't going to be abandoned; choose one of the most popular distro's and one of the most popular DE's. And I reccomend a bunch of options for Distro's and DE's you might like to use.

    That makes sense. If you want the peace of mind that the distro or Desktop Environment isn't going to be abandoned in a couple of years; that's why you go with one of the popular ones; they aren't going away any time soon or the foreseeable future. The distro developers usually customise the included Desktop Environment a bit to cater to their specific audience. Choose a popular distro, and choose one of the officially maintained flavours they make available, rather then a community maintained one, which is much more likely to be abandoned after a couple years. Here's an example of the popular desktop environments:

    KDE Plasma has been around since 1998 & developed since 1996, and is regularly developed, improved, and updated.

    Cinnamon has been around since 2011 and is developed by the Linux Mint distro developers; Linux Mint being one of the top 3 most popular Linux distributions; not going away anytime soon. It's also regularly updated too. And since Linux Mint are the devs; It's the main, most supported flavour available for Linux Mint.

    GNOME I'm not a fan of it personally. It's been around since 1999, developed since 1997; GNOME is associated with Ubuntu and is one of, if not the most popular desktop environments available; of course this is also regularly updated too, and not going away anytime soon.

    Mate (pronounced mah-tay) has been around since 2011; it was forked from an old version of GNOME due to the backlash GNOME was getting at the time for drastic changes they were making to their own DE; and made for people who preferred the GNOME 2 design. Again: regularly worked on and updated

    Budgie released in 2014 and is developed by Solus distro developers. In my opinion, it's absolutely beautiful with it's minimalistic yet modern visual design, but I can see why it wouldn't be for everyone; still worth it to check out.

    Why don't you setup a Linux virtual machine on your Windows PC, install a bunch of different flavours of different distro's, and try the different Desktop Environment's out for yourself? You might surprise yourself and find one that you adore the look of. I know from experience that using the environments themselves is way different to simply looking at screenshots or watching video's.

    The best options for distro's to try out imo are:

    Linux Mint (Debian based; probably the best beginner friendly distro out there, just about everything is doable without the terminal)

    Manjaro (Arch based; made to be an arch-like distro that's a beginner-to-linux but familiar-with-computers, and average-user friendly distro. A common misconception is that it's very unstable and prone to breakage: this is not true anymore and was more an issue in it's early days)

    Pop!_OS (Debian based; brilliant for gamers and average computer users; they use GNOME, but System76 (the devs) are working on their own Desktop Environment written from scratch to replace GNOME; last I checked, there haven't been any screenshots revealed of it.

    Those are my top picks but I know my small list is missing many others of the great and popular distro's. Making sure you can have a system that's supported for years to come is easy if you pick one of the popular distro's. If you don't want to update the system for years at a time; don't choose a distro with a rolling-release update system (like Arch, Manjaro, Garuda, EndeavourOS etc. which is basically anything Arch-based) If that's how you use your system; Linux Mint with the Cinnamon, Mate, or XFCE flavour is a perfect choice. And if you want to, you ARE able to install any other DE on Linux Mint even if it's not officially supported, and you can have as many DE's installed at once as you want; though that will all require the terminal.

    [–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

    You're a good friend.

    [–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Can tell you're that type of friends if you're replying with anime reactions

    [–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

    nice username

    [–] Napain@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

    stop calling people pathetic because youre more educated.. especially women

    [–] vardogor@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)