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[–] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 88 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Britain also invented Imperial measurement system that is still used in the USA while being extremely outdated and inconvenient.

The US just can't adopt changes. It will most probably die as an XVIII century country with a pile of juridical clutches and props.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

The US just can’t adopt changes. It will most probably die as an XVIII century country with a pile of juridical clutches and props.

RIP

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The US doesn’t use imperial measures. It uses US customary measures which often have the same names but are significantly different.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Technically theses days they use SI with weird conversion factors, and call that by the old US customary names

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think that is any different than SI changing the definition of a meter and calling it a meter still.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

That's a new meter tho, slightly different in length from the old one

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The US measures are based on an older Imperial system that Britain changed. There were different measures in different parts of the UK.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well this escalated quickly

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

All of your thoughts don't always end with death to america?

I was eating at my kitchen table the other day, looking out the window and watching the wildlife. It's nice to see the trees budding and the critters out again. What's really wild is how lazy Americans are. Those fatasses couldn't get up even if the country was doomed, and will most probably die as an XVIII century country with a pile of juridical clutches and props. At least the weather has been nice recently.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I see you didn't end that last thought with death to America. How easily the common man's mind is distracted from the downfall of an empire by a little sun. The weather is nice despite the president's best efforts to boost the stock value of umbrella corporations.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I have much to learn, sensei

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Britain also invented Imperial measurement system that is still used in the USA while being extremely outdated and inconvenient.

British people still use it too sometimes.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Brits can't make fun of Americans for measurement because they still measure bodyweight in stone

[–] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah. I also sometimes use pre-reform grammatic of my native language (a huge reform was made a century ago); for comical purposes mostly.

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It will most probably die as an XVIII century country with a pile of juridical clutches and props.

Nope. They seem to have successfully moved into early 20th century politics already.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Mid second quarter even

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

18th century aka 1700s? Seems a bit unfair

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[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The meme doesn't really work. The working-class people who played football the most always called it football. Upper-class people at public schools (don't confuse this with state schools - in the UK, public schools are even posher and more expensive than private schools, and the name comes from letting anyone who could afford the fees in, not from any intention to educate the general public) needed to distinguish it from Rugby Football so they could make a rule against playing it, and invented the name Association Football. There's a tradition at public schools to shorten names in a particular way (Rugby football to rugger, buggery to bugger etc.) and when applying that to association football, it becomes soccer. Soccer has always been a term used to mock poor people who play football instead of rugby, so of course it's badly-received when people say it.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Soccer was a widespread term for it among all classes up until the mid-late 1970s, with books, magazines, newspaper columns, and so on using the term interchangeably with football. There appears to have been a switch to actively hating on the term, and it coincides with the rise of the hooligan in the 60s and 70s, and general xenophobia as demonstrated by the rise of the far right. It is at this point that “soccer” becomes a filthy American term among a certain type of “fan”.

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So you're saying that because the printing press in the 50's used the term interchangeably, his claim that poor people always called it football is wrong?

Doesn't it sound likely that the upper class just... Owned more magazine companies maybe?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As the close relative of a football journalist, I spent my early life surrounded by historical books, journals, fanzines and programmes from around 1900 to the 2000s. Strikingly, pre-1970s, soccer and football were wholly interchangeable in every social grouping, every purpose, every outlet. Dockers down the pub would talk about footy, football, or soccer as if it meant the same thing. It is only with the xenophobia of the 70s that it became an “American” word and a naughty thing to say in certain company.

[–] JayGray91@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would be lovely if you have some source or something to read about.

Consider my interest piqued. I gave the Wikipedia page a skim and it seems like a good starting point

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Found a PDF of a 2014 study by Stefan Szymanski at the University of Michigan. Compares Soccer/Football use in The Times, NY Times, British football bibliography, Guardian, Independent and Time Magazine.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That's why UK clubs called Liverpool F.C, Manchester United F.C. ,Chelsea F.C, Fulham F.C. and so on? F.C. Inter in Italy, Real Madrid F.C., FC Barcelona in Spain and so on?

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

TIL

the name comes from letting anyone who could afford the fees in

Thank you for including that, too

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

That's a very diplomatic way of saying: just the rich

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Soccer is short for "Association Football" so either term is valid.

The Public Schools in the west of Britain were Army schools, they played Rugby, and used western prouniciation ie "castle = carsell" and "lieutenant=leftenant"

The Public Schools in the east of Britain were Navy schools, they played Association Football" and used eastern pronunciation "castle=kassel", and "lieutenant=lootenant".

Lieutenant is still pronounced differently in the Royal navy and army.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Reason why, most clubs founded in the 19th century onward, used football club in their names. Including Italian Spanish etc clubs founded by British immigrant

[–] PoPoP@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Also, did you know aluminum is the original word for the metal? The aluminium spelling was invented by British people after the fact simply because they thought it sounded better. Now they act like we're illiterate for leaving out the second "i"

[–] cepelinas@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

Because other metals have -nium not -num

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Well, many Americans indeed are illiterate, and this is going to become even worse with Trump and DOGE destroying the education system. But the current system is shit as well, the level of education lacks behind compared to other western countries by far. And then there's the unregulated homeschooling in many states, which religious nut jobs, flat earthers and other conspiracy idiots love to do. Most Americans only speak one language and only learn about the US and it's history while skipping the rest of the world. Many don't even know where the UK is on a world map. Even your vice president didn't know where Greenland was, that it's close to the north pole and fucking cold. There are loads of videos of interviews with random people on the street where the average person can't even tell how many sides a triangle has.

In the movie Idiocracy they predict the world to be extremily dumb in the year 2505 but Americans probably thought this was a goal to work towards, and had trouble reading "2505" and thought it was 2025.

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[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

it was called aluminum by the original discoverer, but a later physicist called it aluminium so that it would be the same as germanium etc.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Everyone involved in that was british iirc. The guy that named it spelled it like 4 or 5 different ways and eventually aluminum mostly stuck, but the other science guys wanted everything to end in 'ium'

Ium version also fits in UK accents better

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (11 children)
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