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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 16 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

South Africa, so well known for being racist against white South African emerald mine heirs.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 8 hours ago

I don't even know why I bother with this train of though at this point, but I just can't figure out if he seriously believes the shit he's spouting, or if he's just playing up the shock value like an edgelord. I mean, it's clear he's way dumber than he thinks himself to be, but I can't get the nuance in it...

[–] cnirrad@lemmy.world 77 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's awful that they'd use race to deny him when there are so many other good reasons.

[–] Xuderis@lemmy.world 47 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

https://africa.businessinsider.com/local/markets/starlink-is-not-allowed-to-operate-in-south-africa-because-im-not-black-elon-musk/wrz3chh?op=1

The article literally says South Africa bans Starlink due to the race of the owner. As his race does not meet South Africa's Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) regulations:

Starlink, the satellite internet service operated by Musk's SpaceX, has been unable to enter the South African market due to the country's Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) regulations. These laws require that companies providing communication services be at least 30% owned by historically disadvantaged groups to receive an operating license.

[–] Xuderis@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The regulation states:

Equality 8. (1) Every person shall have the right to equality before the law and to equal protection of the law. (2) No person shall be unfairly discriminated against, directly or indirectly, and, without derogating from the generality of this provision, on one or more of the following grounds in particular: race, gender, sex, ethnic or social origin, colour, sexual orientation, age, disability, religion, conscience, belief, culture or language. (3) (a) This section shall not preclude measures designed to achieve the adequate protection and advancement of persons or groups or categories of persons disadvantaged by unfair discrimination, in order to enable their full and equal enjoyment of all rights and freedoms. (b) Every person or community dispossessed of rights in land before the commencement of this Constitution under any law which would have been inconsistent with subsection (2) had that subsection been in operation at the time of the dispossession, shall be entitled to claim restitution of such rights subject to and in accordance with sections 121, 122 and 123. (4) Prima facie proof of discrimination on any of the grounds specified in subsection (2) shall be presumed to be sufficient proof of unfair discrimination as contemplated in that subsection, until the contrary is established.

Source: https://www.justice.gov.za/legislation/acts/1993-200.pdf

“Black Economic Empowerment” does not mean “no whites”. It means “blacks need to be part of the economy”. BLM does not mean “white lives do not matter”. It means “blacks shouldn’t be dying”. Feminism does not mean “women should be held above men”. It means “women should be treated equally”.

The only thing excluding Musk: he isn’t part of a marginalized group. He’s a billionaire. He isn’t marginalized.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 33 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

So he can still own it as a white man so long as he allows 30% to be owned by someone black, Cape Malay, Indian, San, KhoiKhoi or 'coloured', or indeed many people fitting any of those.

Not because he "isn't black".

Lots of countries have rules about local ownership; eg in Thailand businesses and properties have to be 51% owned by a Thai person. Of course the difference here is that for centuries the rules were increasingly enforced to treat certain races as foreigners, to the point of quite literally trying to declare parts of itself independent ie foreign. This creates a weird scenario after the fall of apartheid that is definitely uncomfortable to read but how do you undo centuries of this with carrot instead of stick when it's people like Musk and Peter Thiel?

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world -5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Under current conditions Starlink cannot exist in South Africa. If we change a single variable, Musk's race to black, then Starlink can exist in South Africa (it would be >30% owned by a black person).

South Africa is discriminating based on race.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 8 minutes ago

Sure. We can also change a single variable and have him sell 30% of it. And now he can be an apartheid nepo-baby and still run a telecommunications company in the nation his father helped to devastate.

What's your point?

[–] Frenchys_prospecting@aussie.zone 36 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I hope when he croaks it's incredibly drawn out, painful and very very embarrassing

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

hopefully he shits has pants in public.

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I hope he eats the wrong mushroom and shits his insides out on live TV.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago

ahhhh, we can all have dreams.

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 56 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps he could learn the difference between not being black and being a total piece of shit.

[–] Frenchys_prospecting@aussie.zone 14 points 14 hours ago

Geniuses like musk don't have time to wallow in such absurdity /s

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 65 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Billionaires should not exist, by any means necessary.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, not by any means. The correct path is to work towards erasing the foundations for their existence. Killing all billionaires won't solve the problem, but working towards Socialism will.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 17 points 16 hours ago

Anyone still on X at this point is a Nazi collaborator.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Look who’s a victim ☹️

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 2 points 35 minutes ago

He really does desperately want to identify as victim. Bullies and Abusers often do IME