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[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 minutes ago

Thanks, Obama.

[–] Captain_J@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

This crybaby can literally be racist, yet his supporters will still praise him.

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

People playing fast and loose with the terms "discrimination" and "racism" really grind my gears. We are talking about centuries of fucking crimes against humanity, and some sad little fuckers have the nerve to conflate reparations with the very crimes that were committed.

lol wow, so that’s pretty blatant.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 25 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

South Africa, so well known for being racist against white South African emerald mine heirs.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even know why I bother with this train of though at this point, but I just can't figure out if he seriously believes the shit he's spouting, or if he's just playing up the shock value like an edgelord. I mean, it's clear he's way dumber than he thinks himself to be, but I can't get the nuance in it...

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

or if he’s just playing up the shock value like an edgelord

Nothing shocking about it, South Africa discriminates based on race.

Starlink, the satellite internet service operated by Musk's SpaceX, has been unable to enter the South African market due to the country's Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) regulations. These laws require that companies providing communication services be at least 30% owned by historically disadvantaged groups to receive an operating license.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If you're going to do business with someone it's completely reasonable that they set their own terms. Elon Musk does not have the right to force his business on a country that does not want to do business with him, no matter the reason. South Africa's BEE regulations are intended to re-balance the scales after decades of brutal apartheid and oppression. People like Elon Musk notice the loss of privileges they once enjoyed and interpret it as an infringement on their rights equivalent to or worse than historically oppressed (because disadvantaged does not do justice to what they suffered) groups.

And let's be very clear, if he wants to do business in South Africa he should comply with the regulations and grant a 30% ownership stake to historically oppressed groups. He is not compelled to do so just as South Africa is not compelled to grant him a license.

[–] cnirrad@lemmy.world 81 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's awful that they'd use race to deny him when there are so many other good reasons.

[–] Xuderis@lemmy.world 50 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

https://africa.businessinsider.com/local/markets/starlink-is-not-allowed-to-operate-in-south-africa-because-im-not-black-elon-musk/wrz3chh?op=1

The article literally says South Africa bans Starlink due to the race of the owner. As his race does not meet South Africa's Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) regulations:

Starlink, the satellite internet service operated by Musk's SpaceX, has been unable to enter the South African market due to the country's Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) regulations. These laws require that companies providing communication services be at least 30% owned by historically disadvantaged groups to receive an operating license.

[–] Xuderis@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The regulation states:

Equality 8. (1) Every person shall have the right to equality before the law and to equal protection of the law. (2) No person shall be unfairly discriminated against, directly or indirectly, and, without derogating from the generality of this provision, on one or more of the following grounds in particular: race, gender, sex, ethnic or social origin, colour, sexual orientation, age, disability, religion, conscience, belief, culture or language. (3) (a) This section shall not preclude measures designed to achieve the adequate protection and advancement of persons or groups or categories of persons disadvantaged by unfair discrimination, in order to enable their full and equal enjoyment of all rights and freedoms. (b) Every person or community dispossessed of rights in land before the commencement of this Constitution under any law which would have been inconsistent with subsection (2) had that subsection been in operation at the time of the dispossession, shall be entitled to claim restitution of such rights subject to and in accordance with sections 121, 122 and 123. (4) Prima facie proof of discrimination on any of the grounds specified in subsection (2) shall be presumed to be sufficient proof of unfair discrimination as contemplated in that subsection, until the contrary is established.

Source: https://www.justice.gov.za/legislation/acts/1993-200.pdf

“Black Economic Empowerment” does not mean “no whites”. It means “blacks need to be part of the economy”. BLM does not mean “white lives do not matter”. It means “blacks shouldn’t be dying”. Feminism does not mean “women should be held above men”. It means “women should be treated equally”.

The only thing excluding Musk: he isn’t part of a marginalized group. He’s a billionaire. He isn’t marginalized.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 38 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

So he can still own it as a white man so long as he allows 30% to be owned by someone black, Cape Malay, Indian, San, KhoiKhoi or 'coloured', or indeed many people fitting any of those.

Not because he "isn't black".

Lots of countries have rules about local ownership; eg in Thailand businesses and properties have to be 51% owned by a Thai person. Of course the difference here is that for centuries the rules were increasingly enforced to treat certain races as foreigners, to the point of quite literally trying to declare parts of itself independent ie foreign. This creates a weird scenario after the fall of apartheid that is definitely uncomfortable to read but how do you undo centuries of this with carrot instead of stick when it's people like Musk and Peter Thiel?

[–] Frenchys_prospecting@aussie.zone 38 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I hope when he croaks it's incredibly drawn out, painful and very very embarrassing

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

hopefully he shits has pants in public.

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I hope he eats the wrong mushroom and shits his insides out on live TV.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

ahhhh, we can all have dreams.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 69 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Billionaires should not exist, by any means necessary.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, not by any means. The correct path is to work towards erasing the foundations for their existence. Killing all billionaires won't solve the problem, but working towards Socialism will.

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 58 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps he could learn the difference between not being black and being a total piece of shit.

[–] Frenchys_prospecting@aussie.zone 14 points 19 hours ago

Geniuses like musk don't have time to wallow in such absurdity /s

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 19 points 21 hours ago

Anyone still on X at this point is a Nazi collaborator.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Look who’s a victim ☹️

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 3 points 5 hours ago

He really does desperately want to identify as victim. Bullies and Abusers often do IME