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Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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[–] AnarchiaKapitany@lemm.ee 51 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Oh my sweet summer child. EVERY new service and SocMed site starts out like this. Fresh, fun, and working properly. Until the masses show up. That's when it goes to shit.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Eternal december.

I feel like white-list federation can fix it.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You could do that if you wanted, but if we had these moderation things will probably be fine. It's also Eternal September

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 26 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

idk about you but psychologically i never chceckef my ksrma scote but still pay some attention to how an individual comment/submission is perceived. cuz i took the time to write it and it's cool if people like/understand it and it's "important" if they dont (at least important to my rat brains)

as a departure from this mentality, i will not edit the typos

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I liked my karma back on my old reddit account (before being banned from supporting Luigi), but that is because I had the account for 12 years and invested too much time into it.

So far I'm enjoying the laid back nature of lemmy. Hopefully there will be more engagement, maybe some UI updates too. But overall I'm liking the switch. The conversations and posts feel more real.

[–] roguesignal@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

I got banned for my support of Luigi as well. 15 year account over there. Sometimes you gotta say goodbye to a friend.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

We have plenty of astroturfing bots & powermods here. Once karma becomes a worthwhile metric for some to filter by, it’ll be abused & manipulated here, too.

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

For all the problems with karma it did allow for effective filtering. With most accounts on Lemmy being harder to create with captcha and approval it might not be needed

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 15 points 22 hours ago

The lack of karma is definitely a plus. Zionist trolls can downvote all they want, no one cares. In fact, there isn’t much of an incentive for any to invest in “downvote farms”.

[–] remon@ani.social 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"Karma" is just a counter of a user's recieved votes. It still exists on lemmy, most clients just choose to not display it.

Also where is this "value content" supposed to be?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Our value comes from our superior bean-based posting economy.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 30 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Lemmy still relies on upvotes for ranking the feed, so, farming them makes sense, it's just isolated per each post.

And I believe the issue might get worse as Lemmy grows. The reason Reddit came up with karma and all that is because the more people you have on your platform, the more baddies you have to account for.

For now, Lemmy is small enough for a basic interpersonal reputation to mostly just work, but as it grows, we need something else. Presumably, not karma.

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[–] BeiYang@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (7 children)

I have a question though:

On Reddit the same post won't usually show up twice in my feed (unless it's a repost). So once you've seen it, Reddit notices that and kind of marks it as seen I guess.

Using Lemmy however I happen to see the same posts over and over again for days. Is there any way to fix this?

[–] g0ndii@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I would like some tips as well. Currently i’m using voyager, which has a ‚hide read‘ function (for posts you’ve opened) and other than that I swipe hide posts that i’ve „seen“ manually.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago

Jerboa has an option to mark posts as read automatically (when scrolling over it)

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 108 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Visible post and comment scores are still going to produce some of this behavior. You may not have a total karma but people will still get dopamine from seeing their posts getting upvotes and be reinforced in doing the same again. So the same mechanisms of social pressure and uniformisation are at play. The worst being when people delete their minority opinion comments because of the downvote pressure.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lemmy is small enough, that without even seeing a karma total, some users have an unofficial "rapport", where I've seen them around enough to recognize whether they are the type to go against the grain, a perpetual troll, or a usually reasonable person with an unusually spicy take.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 6 points 22 hours ago

Yeah it's got that old forum type feel still.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't Karma essentially just the delta between upvotes and downvotes you get with some sort of weighting thrown in?

Because you can very much get that delta on here, it just isn't visible in the default Lemmy interface. If you look at your account through an Mbin frontend for example you can see the "Reputation points" value in the sidebar: https://fedia.io/u/@wittycomputer@feddit.org

[–] wittycomputer@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago

I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (28 children)

Really? I have like 15 meme communities blocked, and there are comparably very few niche communities.

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