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Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

That’s right! I said good shit in tech posts that was worth upvoting so others can see. Then there was an bad comment I wrote in patientgaming that deserved the downvotes and not worth reading.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 26 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy is small enough, that without even seeing a karma total, some users have an unofficial "rapport", where I've seen them around enough to recognize whether they are the type to go against the grain, a perpetual troll, or a usually reasonable person with an unusually spicy take.

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[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Just value content

Lemming36: Here is a high quality 46 MB photo of a shiny bat poop straight to .world HDD

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 49 points 16 hours ago (9 children)

Really? I have like 15 meme communities blocked, and there are comparably very few niche communities.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah, lemmy suffers a lot of from this. Too many posts that try to just make the front page, too many popular communities that dominate c/all. I've even had a friend quit over this.

I genuinely miss communities about games, linguistics and niche hobbies - they just aren't as popular as news/politics/general memes and that. I do try to post them as much as i can, but since they're niche there's only so much content you can find.

I'd love for the frontpage to have some [optional, ofc] changes that encourage more of this type of content.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, but in this day and age we’re going to grow with easy-to-consume content e.g. memes. Once growth hits a critical mass then the niche communities will come.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

For games, make sure you are subscribed to:

All are healthy and active, and I'm sure there are more. I suggest cross-posting stuff from a niche community you contribute to, to one of these, to bring traction to the smaller community.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

maybe my definitions of healthy and active are extremely biased, but these communities have several days-old posts with low numbers of comments and limited reply threads. not only that, but there's lots of news articles about the industry but not much stuff about GAMES, be that random reviews, discussions, or memes.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

Well it's partly my bias too, because when I joined Lemmy about 3 years ago, lemmy.world didn't exist yet and there were around a couple dozen new posts on All of Lemmy per day at the time.

I'm just really grateful for how much we've grown as a site, even if we're still hardly anywhere close to the scale of modern corporate social media. But imo it doesn't have to be, I like this.

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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Last one seems not to exist.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

Beehaw is quite toxic and for that reason, lemmy.world is not federated. I expect an angry swarm of people from Beehaw to send me death threats now to prove how untoxic they are.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Pretty much any game or random hobby I'm on at the moment, I could count on finding a decently populated and active Subreddit. This is what's missing from Lemmy.

[–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

Why would anyone be on all? Even with reddit I I quit going to all probably 10 years ago....

And don't let my Lemmy age fool you, I drop my account every 6 to 8 months. It took my a lot longer to figure that out on reddit.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Ok...then what do you recommend for a varied random feed of news and posts from various communities?

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[–] FrostBlazer@lemm.ee 8 points 13 hours ago

With time we’ll get there! The more we slowly contribute to the niche topics, the more we’ll see these communities grow. I’m sure there are a sizable amount of people from Reddit looking for their niches on here to start growing more for them to fully hop over. I’ve got a good chunk of mine on Lemmy now, but still a handful of ones I haven’t found a comparable server for yet. If I understood running a server more I probably would have started a couple of my own for these topics.

Is there anywhere on Lemmy people can request for servers to get started? I think that would be helpful to have since missing topics are some of the barriers of entry for some people.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 97 points 18 hours ago (13 children)

Visible post and comment scores are still going to produce some of this behavior. You may not have a total karma but people will still get dopamine from seeing their posts getting upvotes and be reinforced in doing the same again. So the same mechanisms of social pressure and uniformisation are at play. The worst being when people delete their minority opinion comments because of the downvote pressure.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You can turn vote counts off if you want to.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 34 points 15 hours ago

Yeah but I won't because I like dopamine.

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[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 hours ago (10 children)

Just don’t be a woman on Lemmy.

Sure, most people won’t downvote or harass you just for being a woman (a lot will.. we didn’t get the best of Reddit at all, and I doubt the new adoptees are any better…) but they will often enough make things difficult even if they aren’t actively causing problems.

But men of Lemmy (aka the vast majority of the user base since they ran off all the womenfolk) don’t care. They see that as quality control or some dumb shit, because THEY aren’t interested in woman things, so nobody should be, or they think their “as a man” comments should be important or some shit... Whatever the post is about. If it doesn’t cater to them, it can fuck right off.

Which is why cis women make up <10% of the Lemmy side of the fediverse. It’s a disaster for women here.

But I wonder how long you’ve been here. Most of the posts of this nature are from very new accounts and they don’t know the problems yet…

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Any examples of this? It sounds terrible and should be addressed.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago
[–] MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 18 points 17 hours ago

Reddit become more unusable because of the ads, bots, redditors who promote their onlyfans / business.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

There are upvotes and downvotes and they do have some use gauging that content IMO

That being said, without the corporate structure and profit motive to produce a monetizing algo that encourages others to game it to further their own monetizing goals....it's SIGNIFICANTLY better

Up/Down votes aren't inherently bad, Reddit and other corporate platforms corrupt it with their profit chasing

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Well, I kind of disagree with the up/down votes being inherently bad, as they more front-load early posting rather than accurate posting. Meaning early engagement is likely to have higher upvotes rather than engagement which is factual and well thought out. This incentivizes much more emotional and meme posting.

I’ve seen it happen time and time again on Reddit and even here: someone makes post, bunch of people react only to the headline, or spread misinformation, and by the time nuanced posts and thought out posts are made, engagement has plummeted and people have moved on to the next thing.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 23 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

I wish that commenting would automatically upvote a post. It's far too late to fix the use of an upvote as approval of subject discussion and not just an agree arrow, but I often...no, I almost always forget to upvote the initial topic even after leaving a few paragraphs. One would hope whatever algorithm is used also considers activity and number of comments in a rating or suggesting it to others.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 12 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I mean there are upvotes and downvotes so I don't know what you mean. But there isn't a real incentive to have lots of upvotes on here. I'm not even sure why karma farming even is a thing on reddit. Maybe cause you can sell the account to whatever guy wants to buy it?

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s because Reddit specifically optimizes the site so that upvotes give you the maximum dopamine and keep you hooked on it like a crack. Most corporate social media thrive on keeping their users hooked through cheap tricks.

Lemmy Marxist Leninist Stalinist Maoist dev on the other hand doesn’t care or isn’t even able to do this because he doesn’t have an army of psychology experts to design it that way

So no you don’t get anything out of karma but your brain thinks you do and every aspect of the site is built to maximise this. I hate it

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (26 children)

I don't get the karma hangup thing. Like.. Lemmy does have Karma, but we just don't culturally make it a priority.

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