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[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

fucking thank goodness

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Good.

Fuck Sam Altman's greed. Pay the fucking artists you're robbing.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So pirating full works suddenly is fair use, or what?

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Only if you're doing it to learn, I guess

Wait until all those expensive scientific journals hear about this

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if we had taken the billions of dollars invested in AI and invested that into public education instead?

Imagine the return on investment of the information being used to train actual humans who can reason and don’t lie 60% of the time instead of using it to train a computer that is useless more than it is useful.

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[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

God forbid you offer to PAY for access to works that people create like everyone else has to. University students have to pay out the nose for their books that they "train" on, why can't billion dollar AI companies?

[–] febra@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If artificial intelligence can be trained on stolen information, then so should be "natural" intelligence.

Oh, wait. One is owned by oligarchs raking in billions, the other just serves the plebs.

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[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

If everyone can 'train' themselves on copyrighted works, then I say "fair game.''

Otherwise, get fucked.

[–] momodocho@lemmings.world 6 points 1 day ago
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

If I'm using "AI" to generate subtitles for the "community" is ok if i have a large "datastore" of "licensable media" stored locally to work off of right?

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Sam Altman is a grifter, but on this topic he is right.

The reality is, that IP laws in their current form hamper innovation and technological development. Stephan Kinsella has written on this topic for the past 25 years or so and has argued to reform the system.

Here in the Netherlands, we know that it's true. Philips became a great company because they could produce lightbulbs here, which were patented in the UK. We also had a booming margarine business, because we weren't respecting British and French patents and that business laid the foundation for what became Unilever.

And now China is using those exact same tactics to build up their industry. And it gives them a huge competitive advantage.

A good reform would be to revert back to the way copyright and patent law were originally developed, with much shorter terms and requiring a significant fee for a one time extension.

The current terms, lobbied by Disney, are way too restrictive.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If your business model only works if you break the Law, that mean's you're just another Organised Crime group.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest!

What is the charge, officer? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Look we may have driven Aaron Swartz to suicide for doing basically the same thing on a smaller scale, but dammit we are getting very rich of this. And, if we are getting rich, then it is okay to break the law while actively fucking over actually creative people. Trust us. We are tech bros and we know what is best for you is for us to become incredibly rich and out of touch. You need us.

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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 day ago (10 children)

That's like calling stealing from shops essential for my existence and it would be "over" for me if they stop me. The shit these clowns say is just astounding. It's like they have no morals and no self awareness and awareness for people around them.

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[–] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Over in the US, that's giving China the advantage in AI development. Won't happen.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sounds like another way of saying "there actually isn't a profitable business in this."

But since we live in crazy world, once he gets his exemption to copyright laws for AI, someone needs to come up with a good self hosted AI toolset that makes it legal for the average person to pirate stuff at scale as well.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

Come on bro, let us pirate bro, just one more ngram of books bro

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Good if AI fails because it can't abuse copyright. Fuck AI.

*except the stuff used for science that isn't trained on copyrighted scraped data, that use is fine

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[–] Konstant@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Suddenly millions of people are downloading to "train their AI models".

[–] Jericho_One@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago
[–] graff@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If training an ai on copyrighted material is fair use, then piracy is archiving

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So Deepmind is good to train on your models then right?

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