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[–] FatLegTed@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sad that picture doesn't include UK - like it used to.

And will do again, if we get a grip.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

UK is an a rosy position right now politically. Can play friends with both US and Europe, like a Cinderella at a ball

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

While being hated by both. Maybe hated is too strong. Disdain? Exasperation?

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[–] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You want Europe, the continent that killed and tortured the people of Congo for rubber to become a super power? What in the imperialist scum post is this?

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Morons who's world history starts is gapped with biblical bs, Romans, ww2 and that's basically it. They never learned the true horrors of what they did (coming from someone educated in Britian)

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

please don't try to do this again.

[–] OrloNorppa@sopuli.xyz 114 points 1 day ago (5 children)

One could argue it already is - mainly on a soft power level. Now that Ursula has chopped the chains off the war chest we can get back the hard power as well. I feel very good about this, it's rare to feel optimistic about the way your country and union is going...

[–] gon@lemm.ee 53 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Yup yup... A little scary though...

[–] OrloNorppa@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

That is the reason why I gotta just trust that the people running the country and EU know what they are doing.

I am in Finland and I really do trust we are doing what we need to, our defense forces and government is very shush shush regarding defense, every government and defense outlet was adamant that we weren't joining NATO until the foreign minister and president announced the move. At least in a country of 5 million we are really thinking of each other here. Let's just hope that is the case for the rest of the EU and the overall union.

Slava Ukraini

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 38 points 1 day ago (30 children)

For the love of God Europe, we need a world power that actually respects human rights, not outright rejects them like Russia, pretends to embrace like America, or outright rejects them while tankies pretend that China embraces them.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago

You're looking in the wrong place. Several EU members have far right leaders already, many more are moving right. The EU (and UK) are about 4 or 5 years behind the US. Don't confuse disagreement with Trump over Ukraine with meaningful ideological differences.

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[–] bingBingBongBong@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

On a tangent, is it possible to block/ignore lemmygrad and it's users? They are obviously trolling here with good old whataboutism and russo talking points

Edit: corrected the stupid spelling of this stupid place

If you are using the Connect app for Lemmy, you can block Hexbear and Lemmygrad in the settings. I did that as well.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

We tried that a few times, and war/imperialism crimes.

But this time it will be diffident. We is evolved now.
(Never mind the rising support of the alt-right parties in the last decade.)

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just for clarification, that's EU and not Europe. Yes, i'm in the hole in the center.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 18 hours ago

So, already a world power.

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 63 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think "World Power" is not that desirable. The US was a world power, look what they had to do and what culture they had to develop to become one. Same for the Soviets. Same for a surging China, becoming more imperialist by the day. Your emotions may tell you "yes!!!", but the reality is - it will not benefit you much, it will mostly benefit your rulers.

I'd rather have the power of the EU in service of getting a proper, international organisation like the UN capable enough to do its job.

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[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an American with an insanely good job and life square in middle class, I'll fucking move over there in a heartbeat.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 1 points 17 hours ago

I wouldn't. The EU / Europe as it exists right now in 2025 might, and that's a definite might, look better than America but it's going to look very different in 10 to 20 years. Every nation in the EU is standing on an economic knife edge while waiting for their demographic bomb to go off.

The European rearmement that's being discussed makes it worse; when things go bad, and they will, they'll be armed up and ready to repeat their last 2,000 years of near constant warfare.

Unless your over 65 its quite likely that you'll see it happen in your lifetime.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Simply whip up an F35 program overnight. No big.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 18 hours ago

'old my cup of wine...

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Just spin up the largest military manufacturing industry on the planet. Ez pz

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Libs really believing that white people haven't been destroying, robbing, and murdering the global south.

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