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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Good take on a classic

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

This is how you remind me of who I really am

[–] Jerbil@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

First dog

Not commenting on the rest of it, but Laika and the dogs before her were sacrificed for no reason. I wouldn't call that one a win. Lots of countries have the capability to launch helpless animals into space if they just turn off their empathy for a minute. Many of them have already done so.

[–] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Jerbil@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

There's plenty of sources for it, but the Sputnik researchers abused dogs to 'train' them for space flight and sent one into orbit knowing it would die. One of the people responsible later regretted it, and now the dog gets statues everywhere acknowledging its noble sacrifice for humans that it had no choice in. They killed it then honored it to make themselves feel better.

France killed a few cats the same way.

The US sent monkeys up a few times and only some of them survived, but if humans can only progress into space by first kidnapping animals, then they don't deserve to see the stars.

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

would you rather send actual people with sapience in first? What's next, no labrats for medical technology?

[–] Jerbil@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unironically yes if the situation were removed from the profit motive I mentioned in my other comment so that we aren't just shifting the exploitation from animals to people.

Most animal research doesn't yield usable results anyway.

Related to this thread, the researcher who regretted sending Laika to space said it didn't even yield enough knowledge to have been worth doing.

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[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Look, this is just cope. Once both nations had icbms, the space race was a propaganda and national prestige thing. The fact that most people say amerikkka won the space race means they did.

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