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Historical Artifacts

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Generally, an artifact should be 100+ years old, but this is a flexible requirement if you find something rare and suitably linked to an era of history, not a strict rule. Anything over 100 is fair game regardless of rarity.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Then this guy dressed as a trash can ran up to me with a sharp metal stick.

What'd you do?

I cut his totally naked feet off.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'd probably copy Bugs Bunny and go in drag as Brunhilde, play a bunch of tricks on him and ride a fat horse around

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Apparently this was worn by people in chariots.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Ah, so a stick on the wheels would suffice

[–] cucumberbob@programming.dev 26 points 5 days ago
[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago

Thanks for this wonderful view of how actual historical fact is weirder than expected. I mean, it makes sense but the appearance is unexpected.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Tons of information here from the Koryvantes Association of Historical Studies in Athens, who made this replica. Picture caption:

Early Mycaenean Warrior, armed with Naumahon Xisto (?) – boarding pike.

Reconstruction of a Mycaenean armour and weapons. The Mycaenean plate armour is an exact copy of the Dendra armour, presented in Nafplion Archeological Museum. The peculiar bronze double-headed blade is dated around 16th Century BC found at Agios Onoufrios near Phaistos Crete. The helmet is based on depiction from Medinet Habu, Mortuary Temple of Ramesses III, Luxor.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Nice find! I didn't know the source.

[–] derosnec@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago
[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Exterminate!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago

I can understand now why the Myceneans died out so mysteriously

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

He reminds me of Tunn-La from The Tick lol

[–] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So you can be stabbed in the toes, knees, fingers, or nose.... how 'bout no!?!

[–] modeler@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's suggested that the term "Achilles' heel", meaning a seemingly insignificant point of fatal weakness, comes from exactly your observation of the Dendra Panoply, an armour of exactly the same period as Achilles and the Trojan War.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

thanks for the link

The panoply has been the subject of extensive academic study and experimental research. While many scholars have discussed its functionality,[10] significant experimental investigations have also been conducted. In 1988, Diana Wardle,[11] using a replica crafted by students at the Bournville College of Art, Birmingham (now part of Birmingham City University), made initial findings regarding its practical use. In 2012, professor Barry Molloy,[12] utilizing a different replica, contributed important insights into the kinematics of the armor. In 2018, archaeologist Spyros Bakas,[13] through a meticulous reconstruction of the panoply, provided crucial information on its distinctive features and the anatomy of its components, while also addressing the operational capabilities of the warrior. Most recently, in 2024, researchers from the University of Thessaly, led by professor Andreas Flouris, using Wardle's 1980s replica, added new conclusions on the ergonomics and kinematics of the warrior wearing the armor, showing that "[a] group of special armed-forces personnel wearing a replica of the Dendra armour were able to complete an 11-hour simulated Late Bronze Age combat protocol that we developed from a series of studies based on the available evidence".[2] This research indicates that the armour was perfectly suited to use in battle, not simply ceremonial as originally assumed.

Conaidering that you won't stand stiff and upright as an unmoving target, but rather bent in the knees like you see modern fighters, as well as moving around, hitting the knees or feet is gonna be a lot harder. You'd have to bend down to reach for them, putting your own head and neck deeper within the enemy's reach.

The fingers are also hard to hit (but not impossible), but mostly they're hard to armor if you want to retain flexibility. The same goes for the face: You need to be able to see what's happening and what the enemy is doing. Armoring either would probably bring more drawbacks than protections.

That's not to say there are no ways to armor these parts, but they might not have been invented at the time or simply too complex and expensive to make. If they found that a ton of people died with chopped-off fingers, they'd find a way to armor those. If they never bothered, it probably won't have been worth the cost.

If you're interested in the decisions that go into selecting armor, I recommend this blog entry by an ancient historian as well as the follow-up where he uses the logic laid out in the first post to be pedantic about pop culture examples. The blog is, after all, named "A Collection Of Unmitigated Pedantry" (and I can really recommend it in general).

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Modern armour has similar drawbacks.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Like something out of Dr Who

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

It's the thick tube neck that really makes it

[–] ConatusPrinciple@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

U will never stand a chance against my Minions