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Thought it was interesting to see them chime in on Mastodon. Apparently the socket standard can't keep up with what hardware is capable of

Maybe we can see an improved socket in the future? Maybe sockets more like a cpu or something?

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These AMD APUs are basically a GPU with a Zen core attached. It makes sense for them to have GPU like memory requirements. It is a niche small form factor product built around a mobile APU that doesn't currently work with socketed ram.

I remember when I had seperate sound card, network card, 2d graphics and 3d graphics. Sure it was all seperate upgradable but it was also a bit shit.

I have an AM4 motherboard here that had 3 CPUs and 3 gpus. Really awesome platform and I want more of that but as technology changes I don't know how long that will be practical. Integrated GPUs might make dedicated irrelevant in a few years. And possibly nobody needs more than 128gb of ram.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Greetings fellow geezer! I bought the 3dfx 3D card so I could play Final Fantasy VII on the PC. It cost more than a Playstation would have cost but I was a cool PC gamer, after all, not a console peasant. After only about a year it was thoroughly obsolete.

[–] badlotus@discuss.online 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There are actually new RAM interfaces being developed. One I have heard of is CAMM2. This new interface improves on the performance that can be achieved with current DIMM interfaces by about 50%. Here’s an article from Corsair with more info: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/memory/what-are-camm2-and-lpcamm2/

It would have been nice to see this added to the new Framework desktop. The main argument against this would be cost/availability. New standards bring improved performance but may raise the price point of the computer to an unmarketable level. Also, Framework would have to source these modules, which are new and still niche. They would also have to adjust their motherboard design to accommodate the new interface which could introduce additional design considerations or cost.

[–] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apparently the tested interface that wasn't suitable was CAMM2.

Hopefully either the interface or the manufacturing process improves so that future products can use CAMM2 for this kind of bandwidth.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Interesting, thank you for that additional context

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

The main argument is signal integrity, as explained in the OP.