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Email is an open system, right? Anyone can send a message to anyone... unless they are on Gmail! School Interviews uses two email servers t...

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago

I have the same problem, emails delayed by hours...

[–] Cuzscience@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I had delayed messages, kicked back messages, and messages lost in the ether. I finally gave up and went to a small hosting company that seems ok so far.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not really all that surprised. Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo aren't incentived to design for a precise spam detection system, just one accurate enough to prevent spam from being a big issue.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I appreciate the frustration, you're doing everything right. But solving the problem of spam at Gmail's scale is hard. Gmail should prioritize user's experience and I can see the balancing act between timely delivery and reducing spam. Are these two new mail servers?

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In this position I would already be putting warning on the order page to say to explain to Google/Microsoft users that they will receive a confirmation email, but that their email provider may delay the email to up to 12 hours before they can see it in their inbox.

It would be informative to customers, avoid some support calls, and would give credit where credit is due.

[–] alottachairs@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Dang, all my email accounts are gmail and I'm starting to think it's time to move.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Could someone please ELI5 this? I get the overall concept but I don't really understand why doing this is convenient for them.

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[–] anlumo@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Email is a relict of a bygone era and needs to die. It's not designed for the modern Internet, and no patching like DKIM and DMARC can fix that.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Mastodon literally uses email as an analogy for how it works. You're just obfuscating the issue. Email is much more well equipped for the problems being discussed. Federation just spreads the problem to thousands of servers. I'm fine with Mastodon becoming politicized, but I'm not fine with email becoming politicized.

Mastodon offers no real benefit over email as a standard. It's the same work, except higher degree of censorship being possible.

[–] llo@mastodon.tedomum.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@anlumo
@Jo what do you think should replace e-mail?

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Something in the veins of Mastodon. Still federated, but with validated peers and a better protocol. XMPP also was a front-runner for me, but unfortunately that one died over the last decade.

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Isnt that just email with a different label?

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