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https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2025/02/09/trumps-approval-rating-at-53-in-new-poll-but-americans-are-less-sure-about-elon-musk/

I checked 538, it’s real. Amerikkka is just one giant lynch mob.

“Trump do things, big strong man do things is good.” — 50% of amerikkkans

Also saw a YouTube video where a trump supporter thought that foreign countries have to pay tariffs when trump raises them.

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[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 70 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, he definitely is doing what he promised to do.

[–] Porcupine@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What promises are you speaking about?

[–] DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 72 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Imposing ridiculous tariffs. Allowing Elon Musk to disrupt random federal agencies. Defining trans people out of existence. Just generally being a fascist. You know, his campaign promises.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

☝️ bingo

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Democrats could learn a thing or two from him

Wait. No. Not like that. no-no-no-wait-wait-wait

Be incoherent.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 55 points 3 months ago

Never wanna hear Americans say other countries are propagandized i-cant

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago

Sakai was correct and leftists need to stop being shocked at cross-class settler solidarity

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago

I hate dems because they never follow through on their promises, but I hate republicans because they do follow through on their promises.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

just one giant lynch mob.

always has been
always will be, until [̷̧̯̘̘͍̹̽̑́̕̚͜R̵̨̛̿̃͐͛̄̓͗̓̀͌͆̉̈͠͝E̷̢̨̢͍̫̮͎̍͋̔̉̉̆̄͋̊̃͐̌̓̔̒̕͠Ḑ̷̢͓̰̰̠͖̮̖̩̼̪̻͔͌̀́̓̃̋͝͝A̶̪̾C̸̨͕̘̣̼͙̦̪̠͕͔͈̙͕̯̰͍̅̋̏̅̈́̈́̎̕Ţ̸̙͓̙̼͓̯̩̹͕͎̮̋̋̄̓̋̔̋͑͋̅͒̀̄̔Ȩ̸̖̭̟͕̗̳̗̠͔̭̤̿̔͑̍̌̔̓̒̉̽͛̋́̓̋͘̕͜D̸̨̢̡̧̟̙̖̫͔̺͍͓̟͍̮̒́̀̀͋[̵̝̞̳͚̘̀̏̓̒̎͑̄̽̏̇̕̕͜͝

[–] thatslife@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

This country sucks so fucking much lmao

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At least the majority is against concentration camps. Well, just by 4 percentage points but hey, it’s a majority. agony-deep

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

I think the overwhelming majority of white Americans support concentration camps, so long as you call them "detention centers" or "detention camps" or "maximum security prisons." You'll see them bend over backwards defending Guantanamo Bay, border camps, and Abu Ghraib.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I never get polled. I have been around for a long time and I participate in civic life. but I never get polled. I think the closest I ever came was probably 20 years ago I was speed walking through a dying mall to try and snag something for a gift, and one of those professional survey people tried to solicit me to take some surveys and I said no thank you without slowing down.

apparently the mall slowly dying made the mall owners want to lease out space and give those commercial survey companies permission to make being in the mall even more unpleasant.

anyway, I don't know where they find these people... the people dumb enough to fork over their information for unsolicited advertising and mailers. I'm guessing the whitest suburbs of the largest cities aka the most grotesque parts of Burgerland, where they are already selecting from a pool of the most unsavvy, bumblers.

like that other headline, where like 15% of Democrats they surveyed in the last days said they wanted Musk to have "A Lot" of power over the government. who are these people? I know bozos exist but it's like the system selects for them as representative.

its like that lady at the Iowa caucus who was a big Pete Buttigieg fan that was also homophobic and had no clue he was gay. that cannot be a real demographic.

[–] ghosts@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not to say that polls can't be wrong or fake, but any half-decent survey will correct for relevant demographics. Also, the law of large numbers unfortunately means that you can get a startlingly good estimate of the entire U.S. population with a random sample of like a couple hundred people.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I am saying the samples aren't random. I am saying the surveys are not even half-decent.

I am saying the system is compromised purposely to serve cultural hegemony.

Citations Needed routinely talks about the phenomenon of using shitty polling to get a desired result for the purpose of convincing leftists that our ideas and values are uncommon and unpopular while giving cover to politicians and fascists to warehouse minorities in prisons and do imperialism.

[–] ghosts@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The methodology in the poll from the article seems half-decent to me. I just don't find it that hard to believe that 53% of Americans approve of Trump after just electing him.

I won't deny the bias in selecting this poll for publication, however, because the results are a minor outlier, which usually means more clicks. The article suggests that other polls show his approval around 48%, but there is still overlap in the confidence intervals.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I always put it like this.

In my daily life, 90% of the time when I talk with people they, in general, agree with my politics. And this includes supposedly controversial opinions like Luigi did nothing inherently wrong. The other 10% are split into two categories, 8% of it are other leftists who disagree on multiple aspects of my particular interpretation of leftism and the other 2% are hard-core conservatives who often still agree with my diagnostics, but not my cure. Now, maybe you could argue that I am in a cloistered environment, but the district I've lived in has been a purple swing district for the last 4 election cycles. If anything, other places are more viewpoint cloistered.

However, if you were to consult pollsters, you would find that my ideas are wildly unpopular and supposedly 'extreme and radical'. Now, they would argue this is revealed preference, but I argue that most people don't like discussing the actual particulars of their beliefs over the phone to strangers. Not only that, but surveys are pretty crap at revealing what people actually believe in.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah tbh I think this says more about polling demographics than it does about Americans opinions on things.

“53% of people who live in the suburbs and answer unknown calls to their landline in the middle of a weekday say gas the migrants” cool did you try asking anyone else?

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

Tbh I think theres a good bunch that just go "at least he keeps his promises" lol

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

brainwashed

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How come states other than texas don't have clauses to secede? I mean fuckit, California joining Canada could pave the way for more states doing the same

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Texas does not actually have a clause to secede, and the Supreme Court settled the case in Texas v. White (1869) that Texas, or other states, do not have the right to secede (and that furthermore, despite the withdrawals of their Congress members, the states never seceded in the first place).

The actual clause that Texas has in its annexation resolution is this clause granting Texas the ability to create up to four more states out of its land:

Third. New States, of convenient size, not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas, and having sufficient population, may hereafter, by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the federal constitution.

This is a mainly historical movement called Texas divisionism and there aren't any serious advocates of splitting Texas into any other states today as far as I know.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

I have been misinformed then, thanks for this

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 3 months ago

Talking about 538, I'm just listening to this citationsneeded episode on nate silver

https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/citationsneeded/CN87_20190918_natesilver_Robinson_2_2.mp3?dest-id=542191

I'm still at min 20, please avoid spoilers.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are many interesting species of predator and prey sheltered within the broad grassy spaces and massed granite tarns of the Outback. One of these is the Outback Slug. It can leap nearly a quarter mile straight into the air. But it has never mastered the ability... to land. It has no predators; it is just... stupid.

https://youtu.be/JZqwDSpeS3w

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

we need to shut down kkkrakkkerville

Fortunately they seem like they're doing it right now

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Someone called us The Jerry Springer Triangle a few weeks ago and I’ve had it stuck in my head ever since

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

People, especially Americans, don't approve of figures they agree with as much as figures they perceive as winning.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Also saw a YouTube video where a trump supporter thought that foreign countries have to pay tariffs when trump raises them.

Ok I gotta see this - linky?