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A string of recent killings across the United States have been tied to a fringe online group described as a “death cult.” The complex web of violence includes a samurai sword attack in Vallejo, the stabbing of a landlord and a deadly shootout near the Canadian border.

Many of the people linked to the violence are connected to a fringe online community known as the “Zizians,” the investigation found. The group is a radical offshoot of the Rationalism movement, focusing on matters such as veganism and artificial intelligence destroying humanity. The group is apparently named after a person known as “Ziz,” whom Open Vallejo identified as a former tenant on Lind’s Vallejo property.

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[–] drahardja@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah that's a much better article. Thanks for this!

[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Someone put together a timeline here: https://old.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/1id8pd7/string_of_recent_killings_linked_to_bay_area/m9xbx0c/

It's pretty wild to read. Seems like there are more involved. Stay safe out there.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

there is something disturbing about the zealatry of vegans.

vegans are unsettling.

their beliefs make sense on paper, but their ardent extremism seems symptomatic.

like I don't hear a lot about pescatarian murder sprees, and pescatarians aren't very irritating or insulting as a group.

[–] Praxinoscope@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry but that is so insulting. This is a group of extremists who in no way reflect the views of vegans at large.

I'm vegan for the animals, the environment, and my health. Most vegans have left leaning values and care a great deal about the greater good. Your assumptions are based off common stereotypes.

Also, I'm sure 99.9% of murders are done by meat eaters.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago

"I'm sorry"

That's all right.

"This is a group of extremists who in no way reflect the views of vegans at large."

are you a member of this group who can speak for them?

or are you making assumptions?

"Your assumptions are based off common stereotypes."

nope.

your assumptions are based off the assumption that my experiences are assumptions.

which is incorrect.

"Also, I'm sure 99.9% of murders are done by meat eaters."

Mathematical!