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I have seen that the lemmy.ml mods will openly ban discussion about the CCP. I am wondering if the sh.itjust.works team allows criticism of government bodies, while still banning racism.

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[โ€“] TheDude@sh.itjust.works 67 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Any government or governing body should be open to criticism. They are suppose to be working for the people they serve. How is anyone going to know better if no one tells them what they are doing wrong? @wriggly3171@sh.itjust.works you have my support

[โ€“] lemme@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

๐Ÿ‘†my dude this is yet another reason why I like it here

[โ€“] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

The dude abides.

[โ€“] this@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right on! So I have a question, if I posted something that got me banned from lemmy.ml (such as an article criticizing the CCP for example) I would just not have access to the communities on that instance right? Like it won't affect my experience in other instances right?

[โ€“] TheDude@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 216 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Let's find out: The CCP is committing genocide against the Uighur people

[โ€“] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If I get banned, it wasn't worth being here in the first place.

[โ€“] can@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago

totally agree, the ccp are evil

[โ€“] lemmywinks@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Adding the people of occupied Tibet to this.

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[โ€“] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago

*Occupied Tibet

[โ€“] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Mao Zedong was a little piss baby who hid in the mountains while the KMT fought the Japanese.

[โ€“] alternativeninja@lemmy.sdf.org 67 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I hope so, although it's not something I personally care too much about.

[โ€“] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

LMAO sexy communist Winnie the pooh was not on my itinerary today. And no I'm not aroused I'm just interested in the content.

[โ€“] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Surely I'm not the only one wondering what kinda unit he's packing down there. My man looks awfully proud

[โ€“] Shit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Find Jesus ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

[โ€“] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hey man don't infringe on my ability to be degenerate in one instance and self-righteous in the next. Besides everyone has wondered about Winnie the pooh's genitals at some point. Right guys? Right?

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[โ€“] ballogh@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You've been banned from /c/memes ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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[โ€“] peotr26@sh.itjust.works 61 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[โ€“] ljubashin@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Also lemmygrad is blocked here. As a person born in eastern block, fuck communism and tankies.

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[โ€“] root@lemmy.belclayfer.net 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ooof the admins are weighing in on that linked thread at lemmy.ml and it's not a good look if you are in favor of human rights

[โ€“] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Which admins? Lemmy.ml ones?

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[โ€“] lee@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yo, fuck the CCP!!!!!!! If sh.itjust.works doesn't like it I'm out

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[โ€“] LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The great thing about Lemmy is that it's all decentralized. Lemmy.ml mods and admins can't do anything about other instances

[โ€“] Tree6024@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Technically correct, much like you can't do anything about what your neighbour does in their own home.

However, what sh.itjust.works and lemmy.ml can do is block 'bad server' communication.

They can also enforce rules on their own 'home' as it were.

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[โ€“] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago

I mean they are commiting a genocide so that's probably not great.

[โ€“] basket@burggit.moe 18 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Yeah, I guess a mass platform migration does mean bringing a lot of the culture, for better and worse.

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[โ€“] sharp@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

There's some talk about "a rise in anti-China posts that have hit Reddit lately" in https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/users/07-history-of-lemmy.html, which struck me as odd.

Criticism of any governments should be allowed, especially authoritarian ones.

[โ€“] Alkalyon@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yeah. This is kinda gaslighting:

Weโ€™ve also seen a rise in anti-China posts that have hit Reddit lately, and along with that comes anti-chinese racism,

No. Anti-china posts are not racist. We all hate Hitler Germany. Does that mean we are racist against Germans?

This sentence is fundamentaly flawed and shouldn't exist in the documentation.

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[โ€“] Raveena@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

Why would they delete discussion like that? Are they waiting to IPO their Lemmy instance?

[โ€“] parsifal@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

Kowtowing to the shitty chinese government is cowardice.

[โ€“] jnj@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

The Lemmy project openly describes itself in its public documentation as anti-US, and was apparently founded around the idea that Reddit is fundamentally anti-China and pro-US: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/users/07-history-of-lemmy.html

The doc starts off talking about open source, but it quickly becomes clear that the Lemmy project is primarily political in nature.

To me this is concerning -- what happens when largely pro-US Reddit refugees swarm a community (community in the general sense, not the Lemmy sense) which was intended by the founders to combat those peoples views? Sure, instances and people can choose to ignore the lemmy.ml instance, but the founders control the project at a much deeper level than that.

Personally I hope that alternative implementations that are compatible with Lemmy arise, totally outside of the influence of the original founders. Yes there is kbin, but I actually prefer the Lemmy model (from what I've seen so far), and I think there would only be benefits of having another high quality implementation which is totally separate yet totally compatible with the original Lemmy. It would make the whole thing more resilient, and could be fertile ground for future improvements to flourish.

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