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25% of Americans Avoiding Tesla Tech Because of Elon Musk (cleantechnica.com)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by MyOpinion@lemm.ee to c/electricvehicles@slrpnk.net

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Three things are no secret: 1) Elon Musk benefits more than any other individual from Tesla’s success, 2) Elon Musk has gotten extremely involved in political matters (emphasis on “extremely”), and 3) many people won’t buy Tesla products because of those first two facts.

New research from JW Surety Bonds finds that 1 out of 4 Americans “avoid Tesla’s technology due to their opinions on Elon Musk.” That’s a full quarter of the US public that won’t consider great electric vehicles, including the best selling vehicle in the world, because of Musk’s highly abnormal involvement in US politics.

Before we get to more of the research, it should also be noted that Musk has been getting more and more involved, including in highly abnormal and extremely right-wing ways, in European politics — in the UK, Italy, Germany, and other major auto markets. Without a doubt, this is starting to impact consumer behavior in Europe as well.

I can’t think of anything else as significant in consumer product sales. Yes, there are some other highly politically engaged business people, but they aren’t so directly involved or tied to significant mass-market products. (I’m not counting the MyPillow guy, for example.) There are founders and CEOs of major corporations who are known political actors, but not so openly and loudly that they draw widely significant scrutiny or tarnish the brand they represent.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Other 75% just don't want to spend that much fucking money on a car.

[–] admin@lemmyusa.com 8 points 6 months ago (10 children)

25% of 800 U.S. citizens surveyed is not indicative of the entire country. Not only that, the original study release here (as far as I could find) doesn't state how or where the survey was conducted.

A survey done in California would be wildly different than one done in Mississippi. That article and this post are ethically dishonest, and the study proves absolutely nothing.

[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey guys, I found the Tesla fanboy who never took a statistics class.

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[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Finna go to Mexico just to import a BYD or Nio

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah I've been pissed off with elon since he turned project redwood into a cash grab.. $37500 is a goddamn ripoff.

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I most definitely don't like musk, don't want to support him, and don't have the money to get a car, but the biggest reason I won't even consider getting one is because of their abhorrent safety.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’ve posted this before, but one of my favorite butterfly effect stories is that the famously under-regulating, and ethically dubious Elaine Chao let Tesla implement new driver control methods while she was Transportation Secretary, and a few years later the same sketchy controls helped to kill her sister (in addition to drunk driving).

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You could've shutted the fuck up and profited

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

And Donald Trump could have invested his inheritance and made more money than god, yet look at them now?

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[–] Elkot@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah fuck this guy

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also include Tesla solar on that list. If Tesla can access my cars data and cameras at will, what is keeping them out of my power system?

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[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I'm trying not to buy a new car in general. If my car (ICE) got totaled, I'd consider a used Model 3 or Y because you can't really beat the bang for your buck, but I'd rather hold out for a used Rivian R2 or R3 in a few years.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Due to the way the world is developing .... I never did buy new vehicles before, but now I'm convinced, I will never ever buy any new vehicle ... gas or electric.

I'll drive a used dumpy rusted out car or truck until I can't any more.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

100%. New vehicles have so many stupid knickknacks to pretend to be "luxury" that make them break easily and difficult+expensive to fix.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

That and the tracking/data collection. My car is a 2007 (pre-black box) and I repaired nearly everything on it to ensure it will keep functioning soundly. I see no personal value in purchasing a new car at the moment even though I can afford it. I am happy to save that money. Another reason is that anything ICE is insanely complicated and EVs still seem to be finding standards that I am still learning about. Even choosing EV, they still track/collect.

There are a couple vehicles that I love the shapes of and I am sure they'd be fun, but I can't readily accept the dystopian mechanism underneath the gleaming hood.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

Planned obsolescence ... purposely designing things to break down over a certain amount of time

If I find a vehicle model that lasts a long time, that is a good vehicle to have and hold on to. One of the vehicles I drive is a 2004 Volvo Stationwagon. Everyone pans it and says it looks too plain and dull ... but it has 400,000 km and the interior still looks brand new, minimal problems, minimal maintenance and it actually runs great and lasts forever through Canadian winters.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

He claims America first and then releases newest version of one of his cars to China first.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

These slime balls have no shame. Now that he has helped fuck up America he is working on doing the same for the UK and Germany.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I noticed a cybertruck downstairs when I was vaping on a bench. I wrote the word “stupid” on a sticky note when I got back to my desk. If the thing is still there when I go to lunch in 30m, I’ll put it on the driver-side window.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Please don’t do this. It will have the opposite effect of what you want.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Also the car is literally covered in cameras that are always on, and the owner is likely to be petty.

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[–] Zdvarko@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I heard 23%

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