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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For me its the "different recipe, nothing to do with macaroni cheese".

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Important to point out that he isn't saying that she is wrong for doing that, it's just a different recipe, don't call it British Mac&cheese!

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Italians demand our respect for their culinary traditions when Carbonara is literally a ~~19th~~ 20th century invention. Ridiculous! Next time I'm having pasta, I'm putting ketchup on it to intentionally dishonor them

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

20th, not 19th. The first mention of the dish by that name is from just after WWII.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good catch, I tend to get those mixed up. Will fix

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

No worries, 's all good. :)

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Give it some fancy name and call it a new dish.

Something like "Maccaronara al Heinzorino"

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[–] inconel@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

I'd eat that honestly

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Call me a sinner but I love cream in my carbonara. Im ok with it having another name tho, that way people wouldnt get angry

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only jackass' high on their own farts gets pissed about someone else adding variation to a dish

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same goes with pineapple on pizza.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No, cream on Hawaiian pizza is terrible.

[–] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

It's excellent on an artichoke pizza though.

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] SGG@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who is Ara and why are you creaming her?

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

She's into it.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

The people of Cremona are eying you suspiciously.

[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nothing I hate more than food snobs, put whatever you want in your food

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] StThicket@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

That sounds fucking delicious.

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Last night, I watched Chinese Cooking Demystified's most recent video where they trace the history of mapo tofu to the best of their abilities. It was a fascinating watch where they had a particular recipe incarnation that defied their old definition of proper mapo tofu. At the end of the video they note how it's transformed over the years noting that there's an obsession these days for an authentic way of preparing dishes often using this point as a reason to criticize a dish. They aren't against criticizing a dish, but call for specific ciriticisms such as flavor balance or shape which is important in Chinese cuisine.

So I went looking though some critiques looking for something about how cream makes it too heavy or hides the flavor of this ingredient or that. What I found was something more exciting. This academic did a quick historical gloss of carbonara and found that several iterations of early carbonara included cream and other taboo ingredients like butter. It wasn't standardized into its canonical form until the 1990s.

Growing up in a traditional household, my parents never worked from recipes, but regularly made delicious dishes beloved by their friends and family members alike. Technique, ingredients, and interests ruled the day. Knowing how to bring out the flavors of the ingredients you had on hand to match each other made delicious food. And the lanes for dishes were much wider because the ingredient lists weren't as rigid. Obviously, a biriyani without rice be confusing if you dared serve it. But do you need kokum or can you use lemon juice? Is a carbonara still a carbonara with cream, with bacon instead of guancole, vegetarian? I don't know. Maybe I care less about the words coming out of my mouth than the food going in it.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's just alfredo with bacon at that point.

[–] spongeborgcubepants@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Original Alfredo also does not have cream. It's butter and parmigiano

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Original Alfredo is pretty much an American invention. There is a restaurant in Rome that makes "pasta al burro e parmigiano" but that's pretty much it. Americans took the dish, put cream and shit in it and gave it that name. They can keep it imo.

In Italy pasta Alfredo is more of a meme than anything else, and "pasta al burro" is made pretty much only when you are sick.

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[–] udon@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

At least he didn't suggest that health insurance should use a deny, delay, and defend strategy for insurance claim payments

[–] sxan@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago

I thought for sure panel 3 would involve more violence.

[–] BruceAlrighty@lemmy.nz 7 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Italians and food are the worst. Let people enjoy what they want and stop acting like you’re top shit.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

I get especially annoyed when people act like because their great great grandparents on one side of their tree were Italian that they have some innate knowledge of pasta and sauce.

Like even if nonna learned from her nonna and you learned from her, theres still a non zero chance that great great nonna was a SHIT COOK.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I like my steak well done. This is the best when you do it with some A5 Wagyu.

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[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can enjoy what you want, just don't name it as something already stablished. Of ypu say you are doing a beef BBQ and suddenly you bring chicken saying "yeah we do beef with chicken in this house" is as stupid as someone adding extra ingredients into a dish and not changing the name.

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[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Fuck the original recipe. I've never had better Alfredo or Carbonara than cooking the sauce myself using garlic, heavy cream, parmesan, and a bit of cornstarch slurry to help keep it from breaking.

Either that or we can give the cream version a different name and acknowledge it as a better dish than traditional Alfredo.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i first read this comic as saying “ice cream in carbonara” and thought the injuries were justified. but after rereading it i’m not so sure anymore

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