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Mozilla chairman's salary vs Firefox market share (as of 2023) (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

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From https://reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1hokr0c/mozilla_chair_pay_vs_firefox_market_share_2023/m4aca4j/:

Total 2022 pay: $6,903,089
Total 2023 pay: $6,260,072 - a $643,017 decrease
Base chair pay: $600,000
2023 chair bonuses and other incentives: $5,622,600

Sources:

For comparison, here are other executive salaries ($0 bonuses for each)

Executive name	Title	Total Pay (2023)
MARK SURMAN	PRESIDENT & EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR	715,143
J. BOB ALOTTA	SVP, GLOBAL PROGRAMS	508,138
ANGELA PLOHMAN	COO, SECRETARY & TREASURER	452,234
ASHLEY BOYD	SVP, GLOBAL ADVOCACY	427,701
ZHILUN PANG	DIRECTOR OF FINANCE	273,069
DAVID WALKER	SENIOR COUNSEL	268,565
LAINIE DECOURSY	DIRECTOR, ORG EFFECTIVENESS	267,028
JUAN BARANI	SENIOR DIRECTOR, GIFT PLANNING	262,879
STEPHANIE WRIGHT	SR PROGRAM MANAGER, MOZFEST	236,785

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The market share plot looks suspiciously clean, where are those numbers from?

Edit: looks like they're from page view data. I know I spoof my browser to show chrome for better compatibility, I wonder how common that is among Firefox users.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

Do you use this extension? it allows you to do that on a site-by-site basis. Maybe only do it for sites with compatibility issues? You can report them right from the extension.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

I spoof my browser (Librewolf) as Firefox for privacy and I don't encounter issues from not reporting my user agent as Chrome/Chromium. I think it's pretty uncommon for a website to not work on Firefox, so I don't see how this is necessary. The Chrome Mask extension is meant to be used on a per-site basis.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Also, I was curious if users were going down or if chrome was growing faster. Looks like it is going down, but not as much as the market share would suggest.

https://www.draketo.de/software/firefox-usercount.html

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

The recently former CEO, Mitchell Baker, made almost 7 million! It had increased exponentially in recent years

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Probably not a coincidence that the share plummets around the same time as the smartphone explosion.

I’d be curious to see just desktop browsers, to see how much there’s really an exodus of Firefox users vs. new devices being added that restrict third-party browsers.

Also salary should be inflation-adjusted.

Neither probably changes the graph too much though.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Right, Firefox has the same situation with Chrome on mobile, as it had with Internet Explorer in Desktop.

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean the graph starts in 09, and Chrome launched in 08. I assume that did more to them, but both were probably notable.

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[–] archy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What happened in 2010?

[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 5 points 6 months ago

Google released the stable version of Chrome, and funneled significant resources into marketing it. This was the first stage of their strategy - they focused on firstly making a good product, and the squeeze on users only came later (and is probably only just starting in the scheme of things).

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Can we get these graphs for duckduckgo superimposed on this one?

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I now recommended https://apps.gnome.org/Epiphany/

Or ladybird browser when it is released.

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lowest position pays 2M roubles a month?! Are they selling cocaine?!

[–] tkr@jlai.lu 3 points 6 months ago

ad-free cocaine, yeah.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He is obviously way too highly paid by an insane amount, but where are these people going? There's no way they're all going to Chrome, right?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago

Chrome, Safari, Edge (which is chromium anyways).

According to this 3x as many people use Opera over Firefox when it comes to phone usage worldwide. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/worldwide

[–] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If this inclusive to all the forks? Alot of folks run forks cus they don't like both ff and chrome. Just sayin.

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[–] TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

From https://reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1hokr0c/mozilla_chair_pay_vs_firefox_market_share_2023/m4aca4j/:

Total 2022 pay: $6,903,089
Total 2023 pay: $6,260,072 - a $643,017 decrease
Base chair pay: $600,000
2023 chair bonuses and other incentives: $5,622,600

Sources:

For comparison, here are other executive salaries ($0 bonuses for each)

Executive name	Title	Total Pay (2023)
MARK SURMAN	PRESIDENT & EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR	715,143
J. BOB ALOTTA	SVP, GLOBAL PROGRAMS	508,138
ANGELA PLOHMAN	COO, SECRETARY & TREASURER	452,234
ASHLEY BOYD	SVP, GLOBAL ADVOCACY	427,701
ZHILUN PANG	DIRECTOR OF FINANCE	273,069
DAVID WALKER	SENIOR COUNSEL	268,565
LAINIE DECOURSY	DIRECTOR, ORG EFFECTIVENESS	267,028
JUAN BARANI	SENIOR DIRECTOR, GIFT PLANNING	262,879
STEPHANIE WRIGHT	SR PROGRAM MANAGER, MOZFEST	236,785

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago

I don't like that your graph key indicates the pay line is in $US millions then the axis is in millions not units. Indicating that the values are in millions of millions which seems unlikely

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