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I don't mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I'm curious about people's outlook on this situation.

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[–] kitten@lemmy.cablepick.net 1 points 2 years ago

I hope we can create a community that they want to be a part of. It takes a lot more than just lurking like I did at reddit.

[–] MDKAOD@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I hear you, but I'll tell you what. I haven't had a serious issue. There's been the occasional hiccup, but I've been on reddit for what 15 years or whatever, and lemmy is doing much better than reddit did in early years.

I'm here for the long haul, I enjoy this experience more.

[–] ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have no desire to go back to Reddit full time. It's still a great resource when looking up solutions, but I will not be browsing it.

I used maybe 5 at most different subs. Half related to hockey. There's no real loss.

[–] neal@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is a tough one for me. If it was just the API changes I probably would have been hesitant but would have returned. As long as old.reddit still worked I probably would have used that.
BUT...... the AMA spez did hurt those chances. He could have avoided dragging the Apollo guy through the mud. So as long as he is there, tough to imagine I will be going back.

[–] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe they come, check it out, decide it's not for them right now, but come back to it the next time reddit fucks up. It'll all be fine. There's plenty of content to be had here even if it will take a while for the super niche communities to really blossom. I don't plan to go back to reddit for casual browsing ever except to check in on some subreddits that haven't made the jump yet.

[–] noisy@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure if I prefer Lemmy but I just don't want to return to Reddit. If they reverted all the changes AND completed changed leadership? Maybe, but it's a big maybe.

[–] dogmuffins@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

2 things.

Firstly, most will go back. With the enshittification of twitter in November mastodon experienced an influx of new users. It feels like for several weeks activity doubled, then it died down to about 30% of the increase and stayed there. So while most go back it was still great for Mastodon. Fosstodon users increased from 10k to 60k in a month.

Secondly, it's not a mutually exclusive binary thing. Reddit will always have some great niche communities. There's nothing wrong with following those, but you can also continue to follow some lemmy communities too.

Lemmy doesn't need to become a reddit killer over night. I think for the fediverse in general there will be a few events like this each year, and if the fediverse get's some exposure and increases in size, it just makes it more viable for the next round.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The real test will be when the apps go dark at the end of June.

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[–] eeltech@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think all we need is a killer app like RIF or Sync or Apollo

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[–] StankFlipper@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think I'll be checking back to look at all my subscribed subs, write them down, and bookmark certain webpages and when RIF goes down, I have a great start for things to look for on here. Gotta keep going forward.

This is what I'm planning to do as well. As well as save a few sports gifs and videos from the r/NBA lol. Then by the end of the month I'll be on Lemmy permanently and have Reddit off my phone.

[–] BelieveRevolt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The libs will go back immediately because lemmy has too many people who challenge the worldview presented by Western media.

[–] JerkyIsSuperior@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I prefer to be bored on lemmy than annoyed with agressive pop ups, repetitive and irellevant ads and silenced whenever i express opinion that goes against the prevailing group think. If you prefer being herded into corrals on that other site, feel free to leave.

[–] postgeographix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I am still lurking on reddit, while using Lemmy. Frankly, Lemmy is pre-Eternal September, so everyone is nice and the community is cool. But reddit is still a massive repository of info. I think once we hit July and my 3PA goes offline, i will be mostly on Lemmy. Suspect this will be the case for most lemmings.

[–] Gerula@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Probably most refugees will go back but hopefully not a so small minority will continue to use Lemmy or only Lemmy.

Probably a second wave will migrate at the beginning of July because I don't think that 2 days of "abstinence" will change to much.

[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Not me. I love to live the pirate life and reddit aint so friendly to our kind. Also remember that people can use multiple "social medias". I think only a small group of people will become Lemmy exclusive users, and many Lemmy users would still be using reddit alongside lemmy, maybe not posting as much as they used to, but they will still browse reddit.

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Reddit is like the abusive lover we can't leave.

I've been hurt again and again and again over the years. This was the last straw. Even if they cave, it'll only be temporary.

I'll continue to use reddit data in searches, but I'll no longer participate in the discussions or offer my opinions/experience there.

I forked PDS and re-wrote all my comments, then delete all my accounts. There's no turning back.

As for sticking with Lemmy... who knows. But I'm going to give it a solid go.

[–] TiredSpider@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didn't even know there was a fediverse reddit alternative until the blackout, so that's why I'm here. But if I had known lemmy was a thing before now I would have moved earlier. If the communities here that interest me don't fizzle out I'll stay, I would guess a lot of others are in the same boat.

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[–] frankyboi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago
[–] codepengu1n@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago

Probably most. It will be interesting to see how many people jump to lemmy once the API changes happen though.

[–] Cowbob45@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I used RiF exclusively for reddit, I tried to see how the app was but no, just absolute garbage for me.

It's ok though, I've been in between places before I want to give this places a try although I'm still confused as to how they are connected.

[–] OrthoStice@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's really better in here. People are more friendly, there's a general feeling of being part of something. Problem is, there is a MASSIVE disparity in terms of content. Reddit has been around for a long time, and has a shit ton of users constantly posting. I really want to stay here, but I think it's gonna be a rough experience for a few months at least.

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[–] dialecticcake@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

No idea but I assume that people like me who took the further stand of deleting their content and accounts on Reddit are here to stay.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Doesn't really matter honestly. I'm staying not because of the migration but because the shut down was the motivation I needed to learn this. And really I think the people who belong here will stay which is exactly how it should be. If people are looking for another reddit this isn't reddit and that's totally fine.

[–] randomperson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Many people accessed reddit through those apps exclusively and now they will be left to subpar official app. If there was Apollo/Sync or similar quality mobile app for Lemmy it would definitely attract lots of new users.

[–] Sektor@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

No RiF, no old.reddit, no coming back.

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[–] stormageddon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'd wager most will go back. But Lemmy might retain a pretty substantial amount of its new users. I for one want to stay here, but we'll see how many content-creating users return to Reddit after the blackout.

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately with the enshittification of almost the entire internet due to a few monoliths controlling almost all traffic and the concept of the hedonic treadmill, the new shitty normal will become acceptable to most people who are not really thinking about it. Not much anyone can do about that.

In my case and for many others, there's a breaking point. It's further along than we probably would like to think it is, but for me it's being jerked over to an inferior, broken, and cluttered interface designed to maximize the amount of paid BS that I have to see while still having to tolerate the consequences of the centrist "all bigots we can sell to are welcome" mentality of Reddit ownership. It's become too much for me to want to continue to participate regularly while alternatives like this exist which haven't yet been ruined yet.

[–] helovesblink182@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’m optimistic, I signed up for lemmy.ml and it wasn’t available today due to so much traffic I guess… I found lemmy.world and another instance in a few seconds and have been trucking a long. This is coming from me who is not tech savvy inthe slightest. Lemmy is easy for me, and I struggle with learning curves. I deleted my Reddit accounts after a decade of using it, and I’m here for the ride. I use this on iPad, and the install webpage as app functions perfectly. It’s pretty darn beautiful actually

[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If I had to guess, I would think that a disappointingly large amount of people will go back to normal reddit use, even if nothing changes. People hate changing their routine.

I had barely heard of Lemmy before any of this started, and many others have similar stories about that. The servers yesterday however, were super busy. That leads me to believe that there may be a lot of lurkers in addition to the new accounts.

In the long run, I feel like many of us will start using Lemmy a lot more often. This kind of reminds me of the death of a few other social media platforms. Over time, I think this community may continue to grow, and could become what reddit once was to digg. This time though, there's federation on the platform.

If Lemmy plays their hand right, they could easily top reddit overall within a few years, especially if reddit keeps treating their mods and communities poorly.

At this point, it's about principle. I would have been less angry at reddit if they just came out and said they were removing 3rd party apps. Instead, we got a sh*tshow with false accusations, lies, and ignorance. I say ignorance, because a lot of people have been complaining about the official apps accessibly options, yet reddit does nothing to help them. Moderators have been complaining about how the official app makes it very difficult to moderate, yet reddit still did nothing. Somehow though, they're awesome at plugging in as many ads as possible, and they are brilliant at eating excessive amounts of data.

Even if reddit comes back, I think I'm gone.

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[–] New_account@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From June 14 to June 30, the RIF Android app will mostly work as normal providing access to most of the same subreddits I've been visiting for the past decade+. A few will shut down permanently, but other than that, it'll mostly be the same as before, so I'll probably use Reddit during that period.

However, effective July 1, that option disappears completely. If I want to continue using Reddit, I'll have to download an entirely different app and get used to an entirely different user interface providing an experience much worse than RIF. If I have to learn something brand new anyway, I may as well try an entirely different platform like Lemmy. No idea if I'll stick here long term or not, but the power of Reddit was the community. If the community migrates over here, I'm all for staying here. I suspect one of the Redsit alternatives will attract a critical mass of people at some point.

As every internet platform has shown, the enshittification is inevitable. Eventually, Lemmy too will become an unusable mess of ads and feature creep if/when enough money starts flowing in. However, I'm perfectly fine using the site for the next few years until that happens.

[–] sangle_of_flame@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

But doesn't the federated instance-based nature of Lemmy mean that enshittification is more difficult to creep in? Like if an instance (or several instances) start being like that, we can just leave to a different one that isn't doing that, yeah?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The vast majority, but more important than the number of people who go back are what kinds of users go back, and most will be lowest common denominator ones who are just there to troll and shitpost. The quality of content and moderating will definitely go down and stay that way.

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