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Another Reddit refugee here,

I think we're all familiar with the Karma system on Reddit. Do you think Lemmy should have something similar? Because I can see cases for and against it.

For: a way to tracking quality contributions by a user, quantifying reputation. Useful to keep new accounts from spamming communities.

Against: Often not a useful metric, can be botted or otherwise unearned (see u/spez), maybe we should have something else?

What do you all think?

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[–] chickenwing@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

No. I'd rather no up voting/downvoting on comments at all. It discourages discussion.

[–] sapetoku@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Please no, no karma, nobody needs another dopamine addiction. Being able to positively mark good comments is helpful, but it shouldn't influence anything - only positive reinforcement.

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I don't think karma was ever particularly useful on Reddit. You can't really differentiate between someone with a lot of karma from a whole lot of low-effort posts and someone who has made fewer but higher-quality contributions just from karma scores. For that you really need to look through their comment and post histories

I like numbers and statistics so I'd be interested in seeing them here, but it's just a curiosity and not in any particular way actually useful.

[–] jeff_rose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I always liked having karma around as a personal metric, but I never actually looked at anyone else's or went farming for it. So I think it should be added but not made a determining factor by default. If someone wants to look at someone else's karma as an evaluation, that's their choice.

Probably more important than Karma, Lemmy needs flair or tagging for posts to help with categorization and searching.

In addition to that, Lemmy (and Mastodon) eventually needs algorithmic choice. This is one place where the Fediverse falls short compared to BlueSky. A chronological feed of everything is a good place to start but let me decide what I want to view and how I want to view it. For example, if I am person that cares about karma, let me weight that so people with higher karma show up higher on my feed.

[–] cultsuperstar@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

No, it's not necessary. Who cares who contributes a lot? If a user cares about karma, then they should just stay at Reddit. We don't need this to be a Reddit clone.

[–] Minsk_trust@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dont care about karma but i do like to see a users history, something i apparently cant do on mlem. Not sure if thats site-wide or just this app. Without that i wouldnt be able to confidently use the buy-sell communities that i did on reddit like knife_swap or watchexchange.

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[–] Steve@compuverse.uk 0 points 2 years ago

No need. New users can be kept in check simply by being new, as in age of account. Active users can determined by their history.

Adding a point system inherently makes it a game.

Unless its like Whose Line is it Anyway, where the "karma" points shown are random for each user, each day. That could be funny.

[–] Willer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Mfers arguing whether reddits equivalent of a captcha will affect social interaction.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I pay attention to individual comments, as feedback from people. The karma total, though, I never think about it at all. I started just deleting my reddit accounts every 2-4 months anyway. Pretty meaningless to me. We could have it on Lemmy or not. I’d be just as interested in all-time word count.

[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I say no, it was ripe for abuse, with karma farming bots which get sold to entities looking to influence and astroturf a platform.

[–] MisterMoo@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's already "Reputation Points" so don't we already have that, but by another name? I like this name much better than "karma" by the way. I'm kinda good with what we have. It feels like an echo of some things from Reddit are here without being a total clone. Hopefully it won't influence people toward bad/annoying behavior like on Reddit.

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[–] normalmighty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can definitely live without it, bit I do miss it a lot.

I liked my magic internet points number, man.

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[–] xc2215x@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

I don't care either way. I can live without it.

[–] penguinsAreRapists@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

No on karma but I would like to be able to buy and give awards as a way to support this

[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

I think it should, but perhaps it shouldn't be as prominent as on Reddit, and maybe it should be called something more boring, like "post vote sum" or something, to make people place less importance on it.

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