Why the fuck is humanity so completely deranged? :(
this post was submitted on 20 Jun 2023
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I have no fucking clue but it gets tiring...
I wonder if we're actually getting worse or if it's just easier for the scum to coordinate and to some degree also be more visible due to the internet.
It is starting to feel like things used to be better, like we're spiraling out of control.
There were more and more mass shootings, the alt right/extremists are spreading like a wild fire all over the globe, shit like this keeps happening.
I mean what the fuck? Where are we heading? And why? :/
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My theory is that we were created by whatever most mythologies define as the devil, or altered / modified genetically by such a being into what we are today. The nice people who are altruistic are genetic throwbacks that the devil tried his hardest to breed out of the human race, but he wasn't 100% successful.
Also, the true purpose of humanity is to destroy the earth via pollution and by killing and eating all the animals rather than to save the earth / take care of the animals. Things like cognitive dissonance were installed via software reprogramming (brainwashing) to take care of the remnant "moral feelings" that couldn't quite be gotten rid of through DNA tweaking.
If you look at what the vast majority of what humankind are doing (rather than the small vocal minority of environmentalists) it honestly makes sense. Then again, I've come to see "God" as a mad scientist / absent minded professor who was all "Let's move fast and break things, it'll all probably work out post-beta" rather than an all powerful creator being. One of the many reasons I left the church.
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Silver lining, they were caught.
I made such a surprised face when the torture mogul decided to pose in front of a Trump flag. 😐
"I'm not a bad guy," claims man with swastika tatoo, standing in front of Confederate flag.
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This is by far the most fucked up thing I've read in a long time. What the fuck is wrong with people? There is no punishment too inhumane for anyone who would do this.
Do you feel the same way about people who eat meat?
I don't feel like that's a fair comparison. Meat consumption has a lot of issues, but the consumer, at the end of the production chain, does not eat his steak with the mindset of "how much more can I make an animal suffer for the lulz, and can we take pliers to it first?". Mostly, they are apathetic or unaware. (Disclosure: I have reduced meat a lot myself but am not entirely out yet and I keep giving myself B12 deficiency.)
I'd compare with much higher in the production chain, the people who devised and enforce inhumane practices.
But people are aware, they know meat is animals, they actively choose not to actually think about it and change their ways.
Even you who just said you know also admit you're still eating meat.
Humans can easily thrive without meat or any other animal products, that means consuming it is purely preference, preferring to hurt animals because you like the taste of their corpses instead of just eating plants is fucked up.
btw. you should definitely be taking a B12 supplement, the animals you eat are fed the supplement so when you stop eating meat you need to take the supplement yourself.
I am taking supplements, but I need to figure my shit out because I fuck up either on the B12 or iron, each time. My first "bad" B12 deficiency came with some nerve issues and I do not want a repeat of that, it doesn't entirely go away.
My goal is to entirely cut out meat, though. Right now, I don't buy it for home food, but if I'm out with friends or coworkers, I'll get whatever. It's iterative, and as more alternatives become available in public places, I'll get there.
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Imagine being such an unbelievable dumbarse that you think mindless torture is the same as natural carnivorous dietary habits.
You're calling someone an unbelievable dumbarse and then immediately using a logical fallacy, who's the dumbarse here?
An appeal to nature is a pathetic defense. It's natural to rape and murder too, but obviously we recognise that those are negative things that should be avoided. Why do you think needlessly killing an animal is any different?
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For big slaughter houses etc it is the same. The animals there a tortured on a daily basis. I'm not saying all meat eaters are evil, there are small local farms where animals can live a good life. But the large scale industrial meat (and dairy) production is just this.
Unless the only reason you're enjoying your beef is because you enjoy thinking about how the animal was suffering to produce it, the two are not the same.
I'm not saying the meat industry isn't evil, but it's not torture for the sake of torture. They just don't give a shit and are only concerned about profits, which is messed up but not the same.
So it is better to kill, torture and abuse animals for profit than for fun?
In the meat industry, animal suffering is not the goal. The goal is to deliver as much product (food in this case) to the consumer as cheaply as possible. Animal suffering is a byproduct of this because on a large enough scale, both the consumer and the capitalists running the slaughterhouses are far enough removed from the animals that they don't have to confront the moral questions of what they're putting these animals through.
I agree that it's still a disgusting practice, but it's not the same thing as deliberately harming animals for your own amusement. In the meat industry, some people can hand-wave those moral concerns away by saying to themselves "at least the animals died for something good: to feed countless families". Whether you agree with that reasoning or not (which, for the record, I do not), that same person can't use that excuse in the case of these monkeys. It's just pointless suffering for the amusement of a handful of psychopaths.
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Humans can easily thrive without meat or any other animal products, that means consuming it is purely preference, preferring to hurt animals because you like the taste of their corpses instead of just eating plants is fucked up.
Downvoting me doesn't make needless killing any less cruel.
Plants are living things too, right? So why is it ok to eat them but not animals? Are you saying we should not eat plants too, because it also harm a living thing and we should all just die?
How about any carnivorous animals (which surprise, we are partially) do they need to stop eating meat too?
You misunderstand the ethics of veganism. Vegans aim to reduce suffering. So far, science points to most animals being likely to suffer similarly to how we as humans suffer, since we share evolutionary history and similar biological systems.
Plants do not share these systems, nor have any evolutionary pressure to be able to suffer or feel pain, since they would not be able to do anything about it anyway
It's not a blanket "living things are sacred"
Furthermore, if you really cared at all about the poor suffering plants, you'd know that the vast vast majority of plants grown by humans are fed inefficiently to animals. So, by going vegan, you'd be hugely reducing the number of plants you are causing harm to
Finally, carnivorous animals have literally nothing to do with veganism. Please stop trying to discredit a movement you don't even understand
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Humans aren't "naturally carnivorous"
Well that's enough internet for today. Geeze. So glad these people are being tracked down so they can be brought to justice.
What. The. Fuck.
Day ruined. This is sick
I heard about the baby monkey video phenomenon a few years ago, so hearing a few of these scumbags have actually been caught made my day.
There is still way too much adjacent material on youtube.
this is a thread which is newsworthy, but unfortunately this is going to have to be the first thread we lock because it's:
- a magnet for people making violent threats that aren't really acceptable and kind of kill the vibe;
- a thread where half the comments are some ridiculous argument about veganism and whether eating meat is comparable to this;
- and a thread where just generally, the contributions have been the expected "that's awful!" but like. nothing else besides the ridiculous argument that isn't even really on topic. if you want to debate veganism and its merits or whether it's an apt comparison to circumstances like this, please just make a thread for that in Chat or something. i don't think this is asking too much.
Well, that's enough internet for today :(
Reminder that the animals people eat are also living and feeling beings who don't want to die for your burger.
I would still rather be killed and eaten than slowly tortured for weeks by someone making money off torture videos.
Neither needs to happen
A lot of things that happen in this world don't need to happen.
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While you are correct, this is taking away from the outrage about the hurt animals mentioned in this post.
Its rarely like: poor animals I've been eating all my life, I'll be vegan now.
It's more often like: good point, I shouldn't care about these animals neither.
That's an incredibly silly way of looking at it lol
You, hearing that someone is torturing monkeys: "ah yes that reminds me I should torture some monkeys"
???
Plants let out an ultrasonic scream when their leaves are cut or they don't get enough water
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What the fuck
And that’s why I hate and despise people
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